Opening the blind eye
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Thread Topic: Opening the blind eye
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God is a monster. The very idea of a deity has been the single greatest cancer to humanity. In the two years I have been here, I have tried my best to explain why religion is a terrible thing. I have given facts and examples of what attrocities have been committed in Gods name. And yet, through all of my efforts, through all of my countless hours of debating and explaining, and through all my countless days of researching and studying, I havent been able to get a single one of you to look at yourself with an ounce of judgement. What? Just because you dont personally kill people, that makes religion okay? The most horrific forms of hate and torture happen everyday. But if it's not happening to you, then you can turn away from it and pretend it isnt happening? It is happening. It is real. Religion has been the longest running sick joke in the history of man. But you're all to wrapped up in your eternity of paradise delusion to look at this world. To look at the missery that religion is causing all across the earth. To glance back at our history and see the sea of blood we drown in that has been created in the name of a god.
I left a link at the top of this post. I want all of you to watch the video. Dont just watch it, I want all of you to understand it. To see every threat that's made. To read every ignorant attack. Every unforgivable act of violence caused by the unflinching self ritious. I want you to see how they admit to the horrible things they've done and are proud of those acts because it's what their god wanted them to do. The same god that YOU follow. I want you to see these things and look at yourself. To look at the life you're living and the people you're associated with, even if you try to look away.
But most of all, while you watch this video, I want you to look at the faces. Most of the adults you see in it are still living their lives feeling great about the things that they've done because it was in the name of God. Most of the children you see are dead. The few that arent are either physically or mentally scarred now. Children murdered in the name of God. 14 year old girls strangled by their own fathers because it was for god. 11 year old children, accused of witch craft, locked in a building, and then set on fire... in the name of god.
After you have read this post. After you have watched that video, and after you have seen every attrocity that your people have committed in the name of your god, here's what I want you to do...
To the atheists out there. The agnostics and others like them, you can leave now. You either had your own reasons for disassociating yourselves or you knew what I just provided before hand. In either case, thank you for your time and take care.
To the theists who are reading this, I'm not done with you yet. I want you to think. I want you to hold your heads high and tell me one good thing about religion. Look back at the rivers of blood and tears and tell me why YOUR god is so ritious. Tell me why YOU are right. I want you to tell me how you can live with yourself from day to day.
I was raised in a Christian family. I attended church every sunday and prayed for my sins to be forgiven. I stand here now and type this as a free man. Free from the heal of a two faced God. Free from the fears of damnation and eternal hell. Alot of you were probably very offended by the very nature of this thread. I stand here now and tell you that I am not sorry for what I have said. I hold no pity for god botherers or the self ritious. I believe that we are all atheists. I just believe in one less God than you do. And once you can tell me why you dismiss all other gods, maybe you'll understand why I dismiss yours. -
FLgirl92 NewbieWell, as a Christian, I've been taught to turn the other cheek, so if you want to believe there is no God, that's alright. I'll pray for you just like I pray for all atheists.
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wow im gonna give a thumbs up for flgirl's comment
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Alejandro98 Newbiebob you are so right
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Flgirl, I doubt you even read most of my post. I dont want your prayer. I dont want you to turn the other cheek. I want you to look this in the eyes and see what your god is doing to the world.
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People rape people all the time. Sadly its part of everyday life. If a Proserpina does it, God will deal with. But those other things, like caitholics wanting to kill aetheists? Maybe its because right now, you are making an attack on our religion. Why don't you stay inyour disbelieving cult and leave the rest of us alone?
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FLgirl92 Newbie@Bob- I did read your whole post. I'm aware of the fact that people have killed in the name of God and that they still do. But that isn't God doing those awful things, it's people who have misunderstood the word of God. God does not want us to kill for him. The First Commandment is "thou shalt not kill". Jesus preached non-violence, i.e. turn the other cheek. God does not approve of violence, whether it is in his name or not, and I believe those who kill in his name are punished for all eternity the way any other killer would be. Killing for God is not an indictment of religion- it is an indictment on human nature.
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My grandmother killed her husband to protect her children. And this means she's going to be tortured in hell, for doing a necessary deed to protect someone other than herself?
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FLgirl92 NewbieNo, not neccessarily. I think anyone is capable of acheiving Salvation. I've actually gotten into arguments with people because I think atheists can be saved. God will take into account all of the good and bad your grandmother has done in deciding whether she will spend eternity in Heaven.
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Appay, you have my support 100%.
To the two theists who have posted on this, you are both completely missing the point of this. You're still so wrapped up in an afterlife that you're ignoring the fact that we're talking about the here and now. What? Is this life really that unimportant to you? I guess it would be, right? Who cares about a few decades, right? After all, you're going to spend an eternity in paradise after you die. Ritious my ass.
Also, you're both saying, "God will", "God thinks", "God knows". Who are you out of all of Christianity to stand as the personal voice of God? 30% of American Christians also believe that God will kill gay people for being gay. 28% of American Christians say that all Atheists are going to hell. That's not including the 18% that think we're secretly worshiping satan.
Think about it. Have you ever noticed that god is different to EVERY SINGLE PERSON? How is it that God thinks how you think, feels how you feel, and somehow he knows how to answer your doubts. God is you. God is what you make him. It doesnt take divinity to come up with the moral lessons in the bible. It takes humanity. A humanity that has been crudely twisted over the course of 2000 years.
I have no doubt that originally the bible was a good book, meant for good. The people who wrote it didnt have the understanding that we have today, so it's going to be innacurate to start with. But it was written with the best intentions. Blind or not, helping you realize the fatal flaws in this joke you've wrapped yourself in is what we're trying to accomplish. -
I don't know what to think anymore.... I want to be Christian and beleive in God but I never will really know if there is a God or not. But that video is just.... wow. :(
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Kiki, a few years ago when I left Christianity I was in the same situation that you are right now. I really wanted to believe in a God. I truly hoped that there was a heaven. But as I sat there and thought about it, I realized that that was just it. I wanted there to be a God. I hoped that there was a heaven. The idea of eternal paradise is a pleasant one to think about, but the evidence weighs against it. I was compelled by the evidence to see how impractical my hopes were. I'll help you however I can if you need me to.
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Yeah.... but the problem is I never will really know if there is a god or not. No matter what I do I won't know until I die. Oh well... I have some thinking to do.
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I'm going through the same thing as you kiki, even before I watched the video. I want to believe there's something good when we die, that someone is watching over us, but also, why does God let so many bad things happen, why have there been so many natural disasters in 2011? If there is a God then is this all just some sick joke or game to him?
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I hope for the best Kiki.
firegirl, using process of elimination I have come to the conclusion that god either doesnt exist, or is a manipulative, selfish, egotistical, and hateful monster.
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