The not really Christian holiday of christmas
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Cockbite NewbieWhat are your guys thoughts on the fact that this holiday can't really be called a Christian holiday.
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dat username tho
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Cockbite NewbieEllo geek any thoughts you'd like to share on the not really christan holiday
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It's a holiday which appears to sway with the current religion favoured by people. Currently atheism is one the rise (I'd guess Christianity will be dead in a hundred) so the christian elements of christmas are removed.
The areas around the winter solstice have been celebrated for millenia yet simply gone through several large changes. -
Cockbite NewbieI think your right and if we are lucky the religion will die sooner me I allways thought It was wrong to call it a Christian holiday when a lot of the traditions are not Christian at all like the Christmas tree for example not a Christian tradition but a pagen tradition that was taken
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It doesn't really matter if we use a Pagen tradition for a tree in Christmas, that's not what Christmas is about. Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus and bloody hell I'm sounding like a preacher.
Anyways, yeah. Doesn't matter what other religion ideas we used for our own, it's still about the birth of Christ. -
You mean Myparentsaretoodamnbrokeforgiftsthisyear Day?
Christmas means nothing to me but annoying songs, stupid Christain s--- everywhere, and broken dreams. It was Present Day, but my dad's a fugitive with a low paying job, and my mom works at a gas station. -
Funnie, the roots of modern christmas were a 7 day period of lawlessness in rome which got roped into becoming a christian holiday for christs birthday by some christians.
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Yes. Christmas is really a christian holiday. Do you realize there was NEVER a culture of people called "pagans" until today? Each group of polytheistic tradtions was as different as their cultures, and they fought eachother as fiercely as Christian cultures fight eachother.
The winter celebration is something of a natrual development whether you dig one religion or the other. ANY religion would have some sort of nod to it.
Arrogant walnut. -
Whiplash NewbieIf you want to learn how it relates to Christianity, watch the movie Saving Christmas.
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Why the f--- would I watch an entire movie just to get your point? I could watch several south park episodes in that time.
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Cockbite NewbieActually I'm not ignorent at all slim and from what I have resurched it is not really becuase for all the elements are taking from other traditions from other country's with differnt religions and pagans have been around longer then you think
As for the whole it's the day that Christ was born I have to say bull on that no one can say for sure when he was born hell there no real proof he even was a real proof he existed the only supposed proof is a book made by people them self's -
Also if christ was born it wasn't in december. Even the people who created christmas didn't know when he was born.
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I said arrogant, not ignorant.
No, paganism is not older than I think. Polytheistic religions are old. Relatively, VERY old. But that has nothing to do with the sort of paganism you're trying say, somehow owns the winter celebration.
And t be clear, yes, christianity is addapted from older practices, but so is every other religion. One thing builds on another, this is the way of the world.
The word "barbaric" comes from a non english soeaking culture, and yet is now completely english.
Primates evolved from a common ancestor, and yet you can't call monkeys, and humans by the name of our ancient predecessor.
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I think the term Pagan came whenever Christianity was invented because it means "a non-Christian", so they probably used it to separate the religious groups.
And I'm pretty sure that Christmas is Pagan. Before it was called Christmas, it was called Yule. The Evergreen trees were put into houses to represent life through the winter, they burned a Yule log for 12 days, they believed that Odin flew around at night on that day, and then there's Mithra (Sun God). The 25th of December is the Holiest day of the year because Mithra was born out of a rock on that day and shepherds came to celebrate his birth.
For 300 years, Christians didn't celebrate Jesus's birth, only his resurrection. And then they wanted to convert people, so they changed Yule to Christmas and decided to put Jesus's birthday on the 25th to replace Mithra.
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