I'm quite sick and tired of being pitied because I don't
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Thread Topic: I'm quite sick and tired of being pitied because I don't
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I may be unaware, but no one stated that they were tired of religious preaching in this thread.
If you're referring to Ting, she stated that she was sick of people pitying her because she didn't have God in her life, she didn't state that she was sick of religious preaching in this particular thread - as far as I can see.
Furthermore, we clearly are respecting each others beliefs. No one is being over-zealous, or disrespectful. Just because we disagree doesn't mean lack of respect or religious persuasion is evident. We are simply making points, providing examples and explanations - as anyone would do in a discussion/debate. Take note, I'm not the one with the frequent action of cursing or cursing towards people; many would take offense to that.
Finally, of course I respect Ting as a human being, first and foremost. I've conversed with her on occasion and we share many interests. Respect for her views are there, and of course respect for her; she's the one that carries the views after all. I thought that was pretty evident. It's a shame you felt the need to restate or confirm that. -
I read this whole thread, and I thought Leah made a few good points. However, I mostly agree with Tingy. I'm agnostic, meaning I don't have a specific religion but I will accept and listen to others' ideas.
When I read this I decided to share an idea from my brother with you guys. My brother is taking a class where they research ancient civilizations, and will discuss the religions of those civilizations. At one point, my brother's teacher said that teenagers aren't old enough to understand religion. My brother's response was that from the day a child is born, their parents' religion is forced upon them and they are "brainwashed" with that religion from then on, so they are mature enough to understand religion.
Honestly, I agree with what my brother said. My parents are Christians, and they make me attend church. They never made my brother attend church or undergo Confirmation, and they regret that, so they're making me do exactly that. Even though they know that I'm not Christian, they want me to go to church so that I can make an informed decision about my religion. Although I don't particularly want to attend church, I have to, so I go when my parents make me.
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Tingy, I know what you mean about God punishing good people for no reason and giving bad people things that they don't deserve. As most of you probably know, I am bisexual. I was talking to one of my friends one time, and I told them this. He was fine with it, but then out of the blue called me a fag. I started crying and didn't talk to him until he talked to me an hour or so later. A few weeks or so after that, I was with my other friend who is also bisexual, and I randomly picked up a book off of my shelf and started reading it. The book had been a present from my grand-mother, so I didn't know what it was about. Apparently it was a religious book for teenagers about why they should never give up faith, or something like that. One of the passages in it said that God loves everyone. I turned to my friend and said, "If God loved me, he wouldn't have made me bi."
While I felt that way at the time, I realize that me being bisexual was both a gift and a curse. It was a gift because it has brought me closer to the few friends that I've told. At the same time, it's also a curse, because if I start to like a girl who doesn't know I'm bi, or who isn't bisexual or a lesbian, it makes it difficult. So while I except everyone's views, I definitely agree that God gives bad people things that they don't deserves and punishes good people for no reason. -
It's understandable to think that parents educating their child/children about religion/spirituality is brainwashing and unfair. The Bible, though, states that it's a parent/parents obligation to do so. Failure to do so is a sin and seen as irresponsible and an injustice to the child/children.
There are many other points I could make, but I'll stop here. -
I understand this, but for a child to have already made their decision on their religion and the parents to continue to try to persuade them seems wrong.
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Personally, I find no harm done in persuasion - even if a conclusive decision has been established. It's completely understandable why persuasion still occurs in some cases, usually out of genuine concern for another person, especially with loving parents. But it's also understandable the annoyance it can cause on the receiving end.
I do, however, object to excessive persuasion and force. -
Thank you! It doesn't bother me, except I already need more sleep, so on Sundays when I have to get up as early as I would for school, it annoys me. Plus they make me attend a church group that meets on Sunday nights. It's fun, I'll admit that much, but I'd rather be at home and just call my friends or even go on GTQ.
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Fair enough! I struggle to stay awake or get swept of into dreamland during church, to be honest. It's literally a miracle I know what I know!
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Whenever I'm forced to church I sit there staring at the preast and whispering in latin. It's funny to watch them get uncomfortable and try to ignore me.
Blood for the blood god.
"Sanguinem sanguis deum." -
Bob, I know I've already stated this, but I love you xD
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although i do believe in god, i also question what he does. all i know though is that he doesn't control what we do. i'm not really sure of my belief anymore...
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Join us...
"Aliquam..." -
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everyone ignore my posts they were stupid.
and to carri i'm sorry for my posts. i should've listened more to what your saying.
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