It's so hard trying to be a good Catholic girl
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I say atheism is also a "comfort system" by what you just said, because to me it sounds like having to have everything proven is the true fear of the unknown.
I don't have pure downright evidence that God exists, and I understand perfectly that I could be completely wrong and absolutely nothing is out there and we have no purpose.
But I don't need everything to be proven and set in stone to feel good. -
Very well said Appay. you're right. Atheism is a comfort system. But I have also said that people choose whatever choice they want because it is what makes the trip worth while. And the different between Atheism and Theism is that for Atheists, the trip actually has to come to an end. There is no immortality or rebirth. Atheists are content knowing we will simply cease to be. (Doesnt that just sound so comforting!? :D) So while yes, Atheism is a comfort system, it is the only one that can validate its clames. Atheism is comfort in the truth, rather than blind faith. That is the difference.
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I don't know my religion. Why try to fit in to a category? Why choose a specific religion? It's like a comfort system, a way of fitting in. I don't fit in but I don't stand out (I hope) I don't know if there is a name for my religion or whatever, but I don't care.
I'm human (or at least, I've been raised by humans) and I think you all (except maybe Appay, who I think just might be a Klingon) are humans. And humans, despite their immense curiosity and thirst for knowledge, make mistakes and really, are like children in so many ways. We are children who have just discovered that there is something more out there, than just this earth. And we want to know more and we would beg our parents to let us know, but we can't find them so we try to discover it on our own. It is an independent living, an all child society, and if there is a god, they do not interfere. They let us find out for ourselves what we need to find for the day when we become teenagers and rebel against everything we ever knew or were told. I believe that that day is coming, but probably not for many years.
I believe that things, though predetermined, are random. They are necessary things to our society and they undoubtedly will happen, but no one decides when or where or even if the knowledge will be useful at the time. The atomic bomb for instance. Did we really need to know that then? Right when we were developing more military? We cannot help it. We are a brutal race. We tortured for information (and still do) and we kill those we do not like. We are greedy and proud and sickening. We are children. We are human. And we must be careful not to delve too far into the realm of something much like Lord of the Flies, only on Earth and with more humans.
Conclusion: make of it what you will -
Not really caring about a god is called Agnostic DK.
You contredicted yourself in the second paragraph because "Can free will truely exist in the same universe as preordination?" How can everything be predetermined and yet we still have free will.
I love what you said about religion being a comfort zone because that's what I've been saying for a VERY LONG TIME.
And as for the atom bomb. Believe it or not, the conception of the atom bomb was a very good thing. The way that concept was made aplicable was not. The ability to cause nuclear fission is now being used in some of the worlds most clean and efficient powersources. With more research into the matter, it could completely replace all other energy forms across the world. -
I'm not agnostic.
I guess the term 'predetermined' wouldn't fit. More like this: every toddler, and every child must learn certain things. They must learn speech and they must learn how to walk. (unless they are disabled) You know that they will eventually speak and walk but you don't know when and how they will react. Will they learn swear words and insult people? Or will they actually use this skill to communicate more instead of crying. More like everytime we discover something new, that is a natural process we are going through.
The atom bomb situation. I agree with you. In my mind, that would be an example of a swearing two year old.
I don't care if you disagree with me. This is my opinion. -
I didnt really see very much of an opinion.
You pointed out that toddlers learn to talk and that they might start swearing.
Then you agreed with me.
And then you told me not to get offended? -
*sigh* I almost cried yesterday, because I couldn't explain things right.
I would try again, but what's the use. It would only come to this:
A- more confusion
B- criticism
C- not caring
More likely D- all of the above
I really should get off this forum. It's bad for my mental health. -
Pff, don't worry, I can never explain things "right."
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You're fine with explaining things Appay! Better than me...
I can barely manage to stick my hand up in class, and then I turn all red while the class laughs at my horrible explanation or opinion. I slip up in anything to do with words. -
Kind of reminds me of today when I tried to explain what an experiment was:
"It's when you get your things you need to test and you make a smaller version of it, so that it can easily be tested, and you observe its results and improve upon where it might be flawed? That's an experiment."
I was thinking experiment with a prototype. -_-^
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