question abt christianity and lgbt+
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Thread Topic: question abt christianity and lgbt+
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I went from bi to gay but that does not matter my point is that I was not born with a distaste for women. Over time I had something happen that dictated that and to say that its bull crap because its never happened to you is pure Solophism.
And no I am gayer than a 3 dollar bill
@bread Oooooh And your a higher up? Its just ignorance "titles don't impress me people do." -
What do you mean I'm a "higher up?" Is it because I'm a mod? That has nothing to do with what I said. I would've made that post regardless of whether or not I'm a moderator.
If you mean I'm trying to act like I'm better than you, I'm not. You're just an idiot and I don't want these two getting all worked up over trying to reason with you, because you never listen. -
Oh I listen
Although it seems more than once you and one other person who I will not mention because its unneeded refuse to temporally change perspective for even a observational reason.
Throwing subjective points at me? I could do the same but choose not to.
POint being since this isn't discord and I can't edit posts
Being gay/straight can not be 100 percent of the time a born condition and I don't believe anybody is born gay. I believe that it can Be born with a likelyhood but no a child cant be gay.. Environment determines most things about a man or woman.
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i’m just gonna say this before i go
i was born bi, nothing influenced it🖕 -
As far as you are aware..
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bro what the f--- -
Im not saying its not the case. I'm just saying it is possible in the future to realize there may be other factors
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See, that's where you're actually wrong. I can see things from others perspectives just fine. I completely disagree with you, but I do understand where you're coming from. The reason I'm advising not to argue with you about it is because I know that you will never consider someone else's view. You seem to think that you're so smart
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No? actually maybe I am thinking about someone else specifically but I am willing to look at something from any perspective for observational purposes Now quite frankly it seems like a specific view point is full of aggression and this viewpoint seems to be the most common as we are exposed to it. Now here is were things get screwy. Emotion leads too many people in a discussion and that is what creates a toxic viewpoint. That's what creates subjective thought.
So yes Your not as blind as someone else "Typically" but I never once claimed to have a high IQ I am just tired of the emotional attachment to discussion. I will admit I am somewhat emotionally attached to my points but I try not to let that rule me and plus as a skeptic I may be the first one to call something out with gaps.
Anyway, whether or not your a tool I don't know. I do know that you are a follower which by all means I am dwell on.
That's not my problem as that's not me and I have my own issues.
So again I'm not "so smart" I am just tired of following stupid Ideals.
This point of sexuality being 100% born condition I have heard so many times and I have tried looking at it from the common perspective and it does not make any logical sense to be purely defined from birth. Maybe not a choice but Influence plays a factor.
Base Likelihood + influence (and/or) Environmental factors= Final result of likely hood
Not counting Bi-Curios because Bi-curios is Curiosity.
sexuality most likely can change because for what reason does it not have the possibility. Often times this is seen as from Bisexual to Gay/Lesbian/Pansexual(?)
A child raised by a single parent has a high likely hood of being LGBTQ
this was not a in them
Just like a fatherless child will likely seek out something to bridge that gap. whether its a father figure or something else.
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He has a point. Statistically those who do have single parents or absent fathers identify as a part of the LGBT. Family roles play a part in how we perceive relationships. Negative experiences also play a role.
You also can't lie that our culture influences a lot of our decisions, norms, and feelings. If we go back 100 years, did gay people even exist? Sure, but it was uncommon. Even though it was culturally unacceptable, it was a rare circumstance. And nowadays it seems like everyone is coming out.
Can people be born gay? I'm going to say no, you're not defined by roles and labels like that. But I do think some people are born with different attractions. We really can't help what we like. But again, it's just a matter of nature vs nurture. -
actually, it wasn’t that there weren’t as many gay people back 100 years ago, but people were to afraid to come out because i’m pretty sure it was illegal, and even if it wasn’t, a s----ton of people would k!ll or torture you, etc.
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I agree with all of you yet neither of you at the same time.
I don't believe anyone is born gay, or straight, or what not but I do think that being gay isn't exactly a choice. I would compare sexuality a lot to romantic feelings. Do we choose to have a crush on someone? Well, no, not exactly. A lot of times we can seriously try to deny or suppress the crush, which won't necessarily make the crush go away. Whether we like it or not, or want to or not, sometimes we can become attracted to someone just because.
I do not think that someone can be BORN gay or straight, much like a person cannot be born with a preset personality. I think that as a result of influence, culture, and personal emotions, it makes your sexuality what it is. But simultaneously, your sexuality isn't, or very rarely, a choice. -
So uhm anyway
At the OP:
I think it's important to take into account that the main reason your mother likely doesn't want you to be friends with gay people is fear. She's afraid of what will happen to you if you are gay, and is likely afraid that you will go to hell. Fear is very powerful in that way. But I do think it comes from a genuine concern. They're arguing over whether gayness can be taught but we already know that fear is often taught. You have nothing to be afraid of and I hope one day your mother realizes the same
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