question abt christianity and lgbt+
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Thread Topic: question abt christianity and lgbt+
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Going off of what bread first said. There is no way we can possibly know for sure what the original Bible said there for we could be doing it all wrong because if we were going to take everything that the Bible says for heart then it wouldn't be God that's our god it would be Adam because God told Adam to go to sleep but never told him to wake up. Basically none of us in a church could possibly know what God wants because of how Lost in Translation it was. This is why I have so much respect for people who study Latin
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that’s true.
honestly it really pisses me off, the fact I can’t just yk, make friends with whoever I want to and not have my parents sh-t on me for it and block me out from them.
like, I get they want to protect me and all that crap, but sometimes I just wish they wouldn’t-
no, imma not go there ^^’
I just want friends, like fr :’)) -
honestly, i’m pretty sure your parents just don’t want you ‘becoming gay’ from your friends because they believe either:
a) you can catch it like it’s a disease
b) it’s a decision
which neither are actually true. it’s just something you’re born with. i know your parents are thinking incorrectly, but that’s what i think, i don’t knit about anyone else -
I agree with Shattered. It's not a choice nor a disease. The reason why people believe it's a choice is probably because most LGBTQ people (including me) change what we identify as to figure out what's correct and feels most comfortable.
One reason why I try not to use labels on myself. -
yeah, i think they just don’t want me to be friends with ppl in the community bc it could “make me gay”
like, I don’t think I like girls and don’t think I ever will, but like, how does having gay friends make me gay?? I just don’t understand, man :’) -
it’s just something you’re born with.
This I do not agree with or at least I do not think its the only case.
I believe It can be influenced
It can be the result of relationship trauma (IE very crappy break up or divorce that causes you to unwillingly put a girl/guy on a pedestal so you turn to a the same sex as its different. god this is getting Meta af) -
i disagree with that 100%. it’s simply something you’re born with, and it’s literally just equal to being straight. gay is just another sexuality that even though you might realize it when you’re older, you were born with
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Yeah thats not even close to f---ing true. It is something you're born with. Sexuality and gender don't just change like that. You might not realize right away, but they aren't going to change because of events in your life
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To the original poster : you can be friends with who ever you want to be.
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How would you know that? How would you know that somebody could not make the decision to be gay one day and when I say decision this depends on the epistemology of the word. When that fateful day comes a decision is defined as a dilemma where there are choices and one of those choices are made. It is still a decision. Whether or not it's something you're "born" with it's still a decision in the very end. But I cannot fathom the idea of a child a literal 2 month old child being classified as gay. Saying this would mean that there are signs about it from the very beginning but being gay is not a lifestyle. It's a sexuality so no there is no clear signs as far as the rest of the community goes I don't know. Being gay is just asexuality being straight is just a sexuality. You can't look at how a child grows up and go this kids going to be gay. But there is a way that you can end up raising a child and you end up neuro-linguistic programming their mind to end up in a certain way to a point. This could be part of the case and Trauma could be part of the case again I mention it again trauma can lead to many things none of us here know about. Point being there is so many factors that go into the future of a child's life to go out of your way and say it's 100% something you're born with has no evidence to back it up or at least all the evidence it has that can back it up is easily contestable. I stand by my point and I do not believe being gay or lesbian or whatever is a mental disorder. To say that you're born as gay claims that it is.
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i’m so frustrated.
just tell me.
do you choose to be straight? no. so it’s the same as gay. it’s. not. a. f---ing. decision. a 2-month-old isn’t gay because they haven’t developed romantic or sexual feelings yet, just like they aren’t straight yet. as someone who’s not straight, i know for a fact that i didn’t choose to be bisexual, i just realized at one point that i felt attracted to more than one gender.
i’m 100% sure that every single gay person in the world would back me up when i say that we never chose to be gay.
mental disorder? you’re actually bringing that up? not everything you’re born with is a general disorder. you’re born with feelings; is that a mental disorder?
but yes, my base point is this (if you’re straight, but it seems like you are, sorry if you’re not): did you just choose to be straight one day? -
*is a mental disorder
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Excuse me. It is certainly not a choice.
In all honesty, I don't even know why we use these labels anymore. Does it really matter who's gay and who's straight? It's all love and that's all that really matters. -
^ i agree
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Please, don't waste your time or energy trying to reason with d_h. It's not worth it, you're practically just talking at a brick wall lol. They won't listen at all and will keep spewing nonsense like this lol
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