Do you consider depression and anxiety creditable mental
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Thread Topic: Do you consider depression and anxiety creditable mental
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Personally- I think, a lot of times, they're falsely diagnosed, and a lot of people do self diagnose them for no reason other than that they want to be part of the in crowd. (Whatever that even means)
But I do think that they are serious problems, and very real. Sometimes its a chemical deficiency, sometimes it's something more than that.
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No not really. If someone is depressed about their hamster dying, and they cry their heart out, well... animals are sometimes treated as a part of the family. But its a whole other thing where you wont let anyone near you because you are having time with "the nonexistent ghost of your hamster named Jerry".
This is somewhat what I think but its really dependent on the scenario. -
...That's not depression. That was just incomprehensible stupidity.
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Well, I dunno what the f--- Alex is going on about, but I do agree with you. People have one bad day and suddenly they have depression and anxiety and they're bipolar, which really pisses me off because I had to take pills for that for a while. I also had to see two different specialists before they decided it was depression. I agree with you that it is a real problem and should be treated as such, not used as a label to play around with.
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Well, it's not stupidity, or depression, it's just sadness over a pet dying. Being sad and being depressed are two totally different things.
But mostly, I agree with you. Sometimes I DO think depression is real, and sometimes I think people self diagnose, or think they have it to fit it. But then again, you never really know. Good question. -
I also think that people sometimes mix up being depressed, with being bipolar.
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^^yES to that last thing
people think because they were happy yesterday but sad today that they're bipolar and that drives me insane -
That too. Just because you are happy one day, and upset the next (like stated above) they are all like "Oh I'm bipolar." Well, no.
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Bipolar and mood swings are two very different things.
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I even at times think that people convince themselves that they are bipolar and/or depressed, (if that is even possible, I think it is...) and end up that way.
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Depress is an verb,
Depressed is an adjective
Depression is an noun
Depressive is and adjective
People say, "I am depressed"
That isn't really correct...
People say, "depression is an illness"
Depression means, feelings of severe despondency and dejection. How is that an illness? Is happiness and illness? Is anger an illness? No, they are just emotions and feelings that can be expressed over an extensive period of time.
Happiness is an noun, as well, and means the state of being happy. Happy is an adjective and means
Feeling or showing pleasure or contentment. Is that and illness? "I diagnose you with happiness" how is that correct? They are the same kinds of words ad depress. How is depression an prescribed illness, but happiness and anger aren't.
I say just let people deal with their emotions and feelings and stop getting the world and society involved in everyone's personal business. Idgaf how you feel. Your emotions are always invalid unless you can prove their value with facts, and most depression cases are from people who can't give you an legitimate reason for why they feel the way they do, so they can't be treated as illnesses. If I had cancer, or suffered an heat condition then I have a reason to receive medical attention because I have medial facts showing real physical damage being done.
For example, I have a friend who is always happy and joyous and social and never shows any signs of anything but. But, she always goes in about how she is depressed and how her whole family is a total wreck because her dad is always gone, and because her dad is a truck driver and never sees then her little sister and mom are depressed, and because her sister and mom are depressed her other sister is always anxious and has to take pills, and because she is right smack dab in the center of her family, she is depressed too because everyone else is. I can't ever take her seriously when she goes in about getting new pills and medications, because I'm just thinking, 'people work. Your dad can't and ways be there and you don't all fall apart jsit because one person does.'
Honestly, I just wish the world would stay out of everyone's dammed business and that people would learn to deal with their problems themselves and not run to the doctors office every time they start sneezing or find their mood shift.
Some people do have reasons for therapy, thoguh, I am not saying therapy is useless, it's just that a lot of people are spineless and hectic and dramatic... -
Good points you make Pure. Too bad they're bulls---. There's clear differences in the brains of the depressed. Also like others have said, Its not just feeling sad or down every once in a while. There's many types of depression that can be observed by how much dopamine and dopamine receptores a person has in his or her brain.
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^^Agreed
No offense Pure but that seemed like a lot of complaining without any point.
I'd also like to point out that it seems like you're very insensitive with your friend. "You don't fall apart just because one person does" can be true in some cases. But if never seeing her dad's a big deal for her, and the family she does see at home is all struggling, it makes sense that she would be too. -
Good point. I respect your opinion, but..
As I stated before, there's more than one type of depression. You can't compare it to being happy or angry, because those never have to do with chemical deficiencies, where as depression does sometimes. Clinical depression, which is what I have, is even an inheritable trait. People can change their moods- Happiness can go away if something back happens, anger can fade if whatever is upsetting you is made right, but depression isn't just a mood. It really is an illness, because no matter how bad you want to get away from it, no matter how hard you try, you can't climb out of that hole. Unless someone tosses you a ladder.
A ladder, being, metaphorically someone who cares, and/or treatment. Laugh at it all you want, but some people aren't going to get better by themselves. And talking about it helps.
Trust me, a lot of people act happy, but they're not. Personally, I would treat your friend seriously, because if you don't give her a ladder, she's going to do the only thing she can- Continue to dig down, deeper into that hole.
Sometimes going to a doctor is the only way. Yes, I get your point. A lot of people mistake sadness for depression, but it sounds like your friend there is really having a hard time. You should support her, if you're really her friend- You don't have to support her choices, but just be there for her to talk to without negating anything she says if you're not going to offer a solution to the problem.
A lot of people CAN'T solve their problems by themselves. Trust me, I've seen it- I've had a couple people opt out on me because no help was ever offered to them. I think pills are a logical choice if it is a chemical problem. However, if it's something else, them talking is great.
However, as before stated, I respect your opinions. I'm not trying to negate them- You have your reasons for yours, and I have mine. -
So what if some people are a little over dramatic? Maybe they haven't experienced the same things you have, so what upsets them might seem little to you, but it's a huge issue for them because they've never experienced it before. Everyone has their own things they overreact about, nothing you can do about it.
The thing about depression as we define it today is that it's not an instant feeling like joy or anger. Depression is usually built up over time. Maybe your friend, who clearly deserves better than you for friends, has been dealing with this for a long time so it's been weighing on her? I can tell you from experience that just because someone seems happy, doesn't mean they really are. And the fact that you would openly say "I don't give a f--- about your feelings" to someone, I wouldn't want to show you how I felt either.
Sure, depression is an emotional feeling of intense sadness, but it affects the body as well as the mind. It's more than an emotion. It affects the entire being. I honestly don't believe in medication, I feel like it makes the case worse, but if that's what helps someone, they can choose whether or not to take it.
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