Disney's Stance on Florida's "Don't Say Gay" bills
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Thread Topic: Disney's Stance on Florida's "Don't Say Gay" bills
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Late post
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Sex ed is extremely important, we agree there.
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What you don't know does hurt you. Keeping children ignorant causes pain and suffering.
If your child doesn't understand what sexual behavior is, they can't advocate for themselves if they are subject to inappropriate behavior by another person. This includes rape of course. Sexual abuse is perpetrated on children BECAUSE they don't know any better. Earlier sex ed would help PREVENT sexual abuse. -
I feel like sex ed should be taught around the time most kids go through puberty
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That's when it usually is taught, yes. In my school district everyone learned about in in 5th grade, and then went more in depth in a required class in middle school. And then another required Health class in high school. However, these classes are not mandatory in every state
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huh. that's basically what i did.
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why did they call it the "Don't say Gay" bill if it applies to all sex-related discussion?
Were they actively TRYING to start drama?
Also i wanted to say that i think LGBTQ+ sex ed should only be for kids who are LGBTQ+ or want to learn about it. -
They called it the don't say gay bill because it bans teacher from talking about sexual orientation or gender identity in any form. LGBTQ discussion goes beyond just sex ed topics of conversation, but now they aren't allowed to talk about it at all. Additionally, this had led to schools banning LGBTQ+ child-friendly books as well
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this has also led up to the hb1069 bill in florida that was just passed recently, extending the don't say gay bill to eighth grade.
it's prohibited for staff and students alike to use someone's preferred pronouns if said pronouns don't align with their "biological sex at birth." you can't have proper sex ed until after eighth grade, you can even educate the students on hiv diseases. allowing these extensions also leaves room for more and more extensions. they now want to literally ban speaking of menstrual cycles.
on the lgbtq+ side of this, kids should be able to learn about and be exposed to it, yes. being gay should be treated just the same as being straight, but legislation simply wants to alienate it. if a teacher has a partner of the same gender, they can't even speak of their family to their students. students aren't taught about lgbtq+ and a lot won't even be exposed to it for too long and it does more harm than good. if a child knows that a man and a woman can love each other, or that girl and boy are things, then why can't nonbinary be a thing for them? why can't a man and man, woman and woman etc be a thing to them? the entire purpose is to alienate us, it's not about "protecting children." -
No I am not lying to myself. I have two mums actually so I've known that for my whole life-but I didn't know what it meant till Year 2/3 ish-because kids are too young to understand adult love-life. Nobody knows what sex is-nobody knows what being Gay, Straight, or LGBT+. Also never say LGBTQ+ The Q means queer which is calling people who are LGBT+ strange for liking the same gender or being trans. So no I'm not lying too myself thank you very much. Don't insult me again please I have a very LGBT family so yeah.
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...i am queer bro. LOTS of lgbtq+ people identify as queer.
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kids don't even learn about being straight until juniors
Maybe I'm wrong but I took this to mean the junior year of high school - like the year before students graduate, when they are 16/17.
Also, yes, queer used to be used as an insult. But queer people don't see it as an insult anymore. It's a derogatory term that has been successfully reclaimed! Queer just means someone doesn't adhere to "established ideas of sexuality and gender, especially heterosexual norms." (definition via oxford languages)
I'm sorry that you don't like the word, but it isn't your place to tell people they can't use it. I'm genderqueer. And I'm not saying I'm strange - just that I don't fit into the typical binary.
Please do some research. I can tell you're pretty young and misinformed, but like. Google. -
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We've been saying LGBTQ+ for a while now btw, LGBTQIA+ more recently but not my point.
Queer does not bother me. I happily say I'm queer. My friends happily say they're queer. We don't know anyone who is uncomfortable with the term except, like, the homophobic kids. However, I'd understand older LGBTQ+ people being uncomfortable being called that, since it used to be an insult, and that's valid.
Are you seriously calling LGBTQ+ stuff "adult love life"? I'd think you'd know that we aren't just about sex. I'm literally aromantic, asexual, and very queer. LGBTQ+ isn't an adult topic, stop treating it like it is. Romance of all types is for all ages (except, ya know, really young children who have no idea what the f--- romance is). -
Are you seriously calling LGBTQ+ stuff "adult love life"? I'd think you'd know that we aren't just about sex.
No, I'm saying young kids like 0-5 ish aren't told or taught what LGBT+ means. Also by Junior year I mean Year 3 onwards like Year 3 so your 7/8. My parents are LGBT+ and I'm not 'pretty young' so you can feel free to guess my age. Anways, I'm not saying LGBT/LGBTQ/ Is just for adults-I'm saying really young children don't understand what it is to be Straight/LGBTQ/Non-binary and anything like that until they get a bit older and are attracted to people or are taught what it means. I'm sorry that you got offended for me saying it's LGBT with no Q. I've always been told that the Q means queer which is calling LGBTQ+ people weird so sorry. -
children typically learn gender roles at about five years old. most children are also raised off of shows and movies that portray a boy and a girl falling in love, and they see their mom and dad. those are two people in love. kids are already exposed to relationships at an extremely young age. if they're taught by society, at such a young age, that boys and girls can fall in love, then why can't they be taught about boys and boys falling in love, girls and girls, etc.? in reality, it's not any different. the only reason kids in later elementary years may have trouble understanding gay relationships is because no one taught them about it growing up like it was normal, and they were only exposed to straight relationships instead. literally everything teaches little kids what "straight" means. fairytales. kids books. disney movies. just seeing couples in public. kids in our society are raised off of only knowing straight couples because of our heteronormative society. the problem is that we are alienating gay people from our children and they never learn about it until they're older, but there's no valid reason as to why—people are just homophobic.
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