What do you think
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Thread Topic: What do you think
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So i guess shaggy is black now in the new show.. any thoughts?
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They changed the race of Velma and Daphne too
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Anyone who really cares about a character being white/played by a white person is racist or ignorant.
After The Little Mermaid's trailer came out, I got several videos of children reacting to it on my tiktoks fyp. The joy in their eyes and voices as they saw someone who looked like them made me sad. They should have always had that, it shouldn't be so special. It shouldn't be controversial. Normalize diverse casting and diverse stories. Representation is so important, especially in children's media.
If you have an issue with a poc being cast as a certain character, I encourage you to ask yourself why you feel that way. Why does it matter so much to you that they're white? -
I find some representation to be preformative but I don't believe that is the case here. And even if it were i don't really care if it makes some kid feel seen.
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I genuinely don't understand why they do this. it honestly feels like they're just trying to cater toward SJW's and twitter snowflakes.
And I don't have a problem with diverse casts, but I have yet to see a company do something like this for anything other than publicity.
(Kinda like how so many companies change their logos for pride month and then revert the exact minute june ends) -
Yeah but it does genuinely seem to me like a publicity stunt, like when nickelodeon randomly said spongebob was LBGTQ+
and I'm not saying you can't have a diverse cast but yeah
ALSO WHAT?
scooby ain't here?
B R U H ? -
honestly its the directors choice? like you can have an issue with the character design but it shouldn't be that they're black or that someone is trying to add diversity to a group of four white characters and a f---ing dog. personally i don't like the character design choices but i don't dig the newer take on the animation style. i wish they would have kept core concepts of shaggy, it would have been nice to see a different hairstyle imo and thats a missed opportunity. i've yet to see the other character designs as i'm not heavily invested. but your main critique shouldn't boil down to "i don't like that they're not still white :("
again you have to look at the person who is directing it and the kind of work she is known for. if you don't like this version, good news, there's about 500 spin offs where everyone is white! so you have options if representation makes you uncomfy -
This is just a long rant of my thoughts and ideas and might not be worth reading lol. I don't have time to proofread this or edit it but if you do take the time to read please feel free to let me know if you think I missed the mark on anything.
I wasn't going to post here because I'm still thinking about both sides of the argument and coming to a conclusion. However, I will say that I believe that the purpose of art is to subdue expectations. Sometimes that includes doing things that may be considered shocking or unnecessary, HOWEVER, I don't think the character design is inspired at all.
I found a lot of character art I think is absolutely mesmerizing of the mystery gang while researching this. Many of which do portray characters with different races or in some cases, completely different character designs entirely. The important thing though is that they still captured the original energy of the character while adding this air of "what if?"
While many of the art I just mentioned felt very inspired I just simply do not feel that way about these characters and that has lead me to wonder if maybe this great evil isn't the subversion of our expectations, perhaps it is the corporate hand behind this films like the little mermaid, Ghostbusters & Scooby Doo.
Maybe we are all raging against the machine of watered down cash cows. Maybe these machines do this intentionally so we fight about it while ignoring the fact that they're just spitting out more soulless garbage.
I haven't seen the new show or any of the director's other work so I absolutely cannot speak to it directly or give and informed opinion on it, but I will say that my current perception on it is that it seems like they took the quickest shortcut to stir up media attention while giving limited attention to the artistic creation of it.
Hopefully my perspective on it will continue to grow once it is released. As a final thought as a devil's advocate to my own opinion I will say that art is meant to make you feel something and this certainly is making people feel things so I suppose maybe it's doing what it set out to do, just now what I wanted it to do. -
Subvert expectations* sheesh shoulda proofread smh
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Can someone give me a link to the trailer? I'd like to see why people are getting so pissed off.
Also, there's nothing wrong with nickelodeon announcing Spongebob is LGBTQIA+? It was never specified in the show, so why does it matter? I grew up watching Spongebob, and I wish I had grown up knowing that there was asexual representation right in front of my eyes. -
Why didn't I refresh before posting R.I.P))
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So the thing about the spongebob situation is that he was never originally LBGTQ+, however Nickelodeon decided to retcon it. If the original creator of Spongebob intended him to be LBGTQ+, then i'm fairly certain he would've said something about before his death.
but your main critique shouldn't boil down to "i don't like that they're not still white :("
That literally isn't even my main critique.
Did you actually read my post all the way through? /gen -
I don't remember SpongeBob ever having a romantic relationship in the show. Sea sponges are also literally asexual so idk it seems like a weak argument.
There's good and bad LGBT representation in media but SpongeBob seems fine. Also are you against the idea that some characters can just not feel sexual attraction? Wouldn't it be worse if they sexualized him? They didn't change his character for an agenda they just stated what was already evident by his character design. -
I was about to say that in all of the years that I watched the show, I've never seen him in a relationship, so-
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Also are you against the idea that some characters can just not feel sexual attraction? Wouldn't it be worse if they sexualized him?
What? No.
Also i'm fairly certain they said he was gay, not ace. correct me if I'm wrong
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