Kay, I'm agnostic.
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Thread Topic: Kay, I'm agnostic.
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Yup.
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Why
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So... you're incompetent?
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So I hope you'll apologise for everything you said to non-christians. It was a while ago but I remember you talking with me about how people who didn't believe in god were idiots and you told me to have a nice time in hell or something similar. It might have been in a topic about creationism vs big bang
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^ I don't remember that. Well, sort of, but it's in a blur.
@barber: lolwut
Be Agnostic. Good for you. -
Im pretty sure neither me or bob would have said something like that.
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Well, until now, my freedom of religion has been really limited. My mom's obsessed with god, my friends are obsessed with god, and my school forces Christianity upon us, so it takes a while to get the courage to disagree with what you've constantly been told was right. After reading quite a bit on the Internet, I found that most atheists either end the argument successfully or make the others look absolutely ridiculous. I began to doubt myself, so for a while I decided to put myself in the mindset of an atheist and I finally saw how ignorant the whole religion really was. I found that it's merely another brick in the wall, another worthless religion, and that it made just about as much sense and had just about as much 'proof' as did the Egyptians did of their gods, or that any other religion had, when all the while I thought of the other religions as stupid. I realized that I had believed that anyone who didn't believe in god wasn't saved and simply didn't have enough faith, and that was what kept me from considering their ideas. I'm not a full blown atheist because it's just so damn hard to get rid of ideas you've believed for so long, and despite how many times I tell myself that it's all bulls---, I still occasionally find myself saying, "Damn, Leah, if you keep trying to be atheist you'll never get saved, and you'll end up in hell," or, "I wonder what it'll be like when I make it to hell," or, "I bet heaven'll be really awesome." See, I'm really just arguing with myself. One part of me says that it's all a lie, that I should just find the sense of freedom in life that I never had before. The other part tells me that I'm lying to myself, that I've sinned so much that I simply don't want to change my ways, that I'm tempting god by trying to be atheist until I grow old so that I'll have no rules to follow. There is so much evidence behind atheism and so little behind Christianity, but I've grown so familiar with Christianity. I am leaning towards atheism, though.
..Never thought of it that way, but yeah. It's not like being incompetent is a new concept to me, though.
I'll admit that I was foolish, not only for believing such things but also for forcing my religion upon other people, but I won't apologize. I didn't do any real harm, did I? I may have wasted a few minutes, or even hours of your time, but that was voluntary on your part. I may have aggravated you, but that's just a consequence of someone who can't take arguments witnessing an argument. Did I really hurt you so, so very badly that I should apologize even though it's behind both of us completely? Hell nah. I'm not going to apologize for an argument. If you can give me evidence of me significantly harming you mentally or physically, sure, I'll apologize. I'm not going to apologize for standing up for something I once believed in, even if I acknowledge now that it was stupid to do it. I did a lot of stupid things back then, I don't intend to apologize for every little thing when most would have already let it go.
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Well yeah I understand now you've described how religious everyone around you has been and stuff, I know there are some seriously religious places in America, it's not like that at all where I am. No you didnt hurt me, it just annoys me a bit how people have such a strong belief at one point, totally believe in it and call others stupid and burn in hell (or whatever it was I don't remember) and then have a different belief a few months later forgetting that they were like that before.
You seem like a different person now..it wasn't an argument as I remember it - it was a discussion about God vs No God and you over reacted immaturely at anyone who wasn't religious, like you weren't open at all to any other beliefs. -
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You've still got the spider on your face. Shall I whack it or leave it?
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Puppyz You are not an agnostic. Your a weak atheist.
Agnostics are concerned primarily with the idea that no one can actually make a final decision given that is no final evidence. This is fair enough considering that its true.
You on the other hand prefer atheism but hold back your mind out of emotional fear.
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