I admire Frida Kahlo
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Thread Topic: I admire Frida Kahlo
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Nobody is denying that. But sadly those jackasses are the loudest and most influential in todays world. Creating a bias and stigma for the whole group.
Not all atheists are egotistical a--holes, but that's still the stigma. Not all christians are bible thumping weirdos, but that's still the stigma. Not all black people are gun-toting Neanderthals, that's the stereotype. Not all men are violent, ignorant rapists. But people still claim that they should be treated as potentially so.
Stereotypes sadly aren't applied because of a majority. They are perpetuated by the loudest. -
I'm just gonna drop this here since you guys are talking about feminism.
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What bob said.
And as far as I know, ist= denoting a person who subscribes to a prejudice or practices discrimination, so feminist = someone who subscribes to females and practices discrimination (basically, believes females are better)
Even the name gives a bad impression. It reminds me of the a--holes who go anti-men. -
^No, not even close. Read up on etymology, friend.
Happy I could help Appay. -
-ist
a suffix of nouns, often corresponding to verbs ending in -ize or nouns ending in -ism, that denote a person who practices or is concerned with something, or holds certain principles, doctrines, etc.
I'll argue for the usefulness of stereotyping within reason. That's a sound argument. But I do have to agree with Tongue on this one. "ist" has nothing to do with it.
Although a group that argues equality named after one side can raise questions. It's like a group setting out to "Americanize the world" claiming that their goal is equality of all nations. It seems a little fishy and difficult to trust. -
I used a dictionary, and "ist" pretty much means a tendency towards something. Bob has a point, how can you call yourself feminist and claim to be equalist?
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You can use different sources and come up with different definitions, but I think we all know in the end the name is misleading nad wrong. Something like SFR(support of female rights) would correspond more with what they claim to be.
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Feminism was originally a good term for it. It was the interest of making women equal to men. But that's no longer all they stand for. The "good" intentions of the movement are for equality of both genders. When feminism hit equality, it hit Over equality, causing a larger rift in the genders in new places while it closed them in the old ones.
To fight for the old ideals of feminism in the modern world would be to still believe that women are the only gender being disadvantaged for their gender. That simply isn't the case.
But now we're arguing semantics. But isn't that what this whole thread has been? Semantics? -
I was talking about the connotation attached to the word feminist. It just has an anti-men feeling to it thanks to the word itself and the many feminists who actually act anti-men.
Though, I respect the old feminists who fought for women's right in the past, and the ones who are currently active in the countries where women are actually deprived of their rights because of gender. But seriously, US? Aren't women and men equal there? Anyone who practices feminism in the modern societies is just overdoing it and is practicing sexism not the support of female rights. -
I'm not even going to begin to explain this.
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Um, explain what?
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Women and men are a lot more equal here than in most places, yes. But that's not to say that women don't still face inequalities and injustice on a daily basis. I think I mentioned domestic violence before. Go ahead and rave and rant that men can be victims too, but the vast majority of domestic violence victims are women. 1 in 4 women in the United States are victims of domestic violence. Those facts are absolutely non-debatable. Yeah, it is generally much worse for women in less developed countries, but it is worse to live in those countries regardless of gender. So really there is no reason to ignore the inequalities in this country that have real consequences on the health and wellness of women.
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Approximately 1.3 million women and 835,000 men are physically assaulted by an intimate partner annually in the United States.
[Patricia Tjaden & Nancy Thoennes, U.S. Dep't of Just., NCJ 183781. From the Prevalance, Incidence, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence Against Women: Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey at iv (2000)]
That is a difference of 15.569% between men and women. Hardly a "vast majority". -
Damnit, I typed a revision and lost all my work. So here's the short version.
-My math was wrong.
-Actual percent is closer to 46%.
-I'll admit that's a much bigger number.
-This does not however mean that men are any less important.
-Those 835k should not become less important than the 1.3M
-This is not the case in society however.
Typing in dashes is hard...
Women have thousands of domestic violence shelters while men have next to nothing. Women who are accused of domestic violence are punished statistically much less harshly then men who are.
Our society puts women on a pedestal. It does this because we needed for women to have equal rights to men. We have overshot this goal in all the wrong ways. In the act of giving women so much more to compensate, the value of men has decreased.
Women get 8 times the money for health research. Win significantly more child custody cases. Serve shorter sentences for almost any crime.
This isn't equality anymore.
(my original draft was better written and provided more statistics, but was sadly lost.) -
all I said was I admire Frida Kahlo and somehow the topic turns to feminism
why
just why
I JUST WANTED TO SHOW MY LOVE FOR KAHLO
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