So obama aint that bad eh...
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Thread Topic: So obama aint that bad eh...
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Look at the government shutdown ass holes.
Only well to get out of this hellhole is 100% tax on everything.
I will now predict which of you will call me wrong because they are furious democrats.
Tongue
Appa
Saphire
Viktor -
I've given up on the US government all together. Democrats, Republicans, the whole lot.
I'm getting out of here as soon as I can. -
Knew I shouldn't put you on that list
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It is actually the Republicans in Congress who started this fire, Geek.
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Don't forget that the debt didn't just magically appear when Obama became president...
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And you spelled sapphire wrong you illiterate f---
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I'm not a Democrat. Left-wing. Not a Democrat, they're technically right wing.
I also don't like Obama's policies, but for different reasons. For example, people complain about Obamacare being "too socialist," it's actually not nearly socialist enough.
But while I DO agree with you- the Republicans had the leading role in the shutdown being approved. Democrats helped it happen, but Republicans caused it. -
The government has shut down more than once, under different presidents. And it's not only his fault, it's Congress as well because they can't agree on anything.
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3/4 and 4th uncommented. Appa was the only one vagualy unique.
Say something unique guys. Seriously. -
Um it wasn't Obama's fault it was Bush's fault in the first place.
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I don't care about unique, I care about the truth. The truth is that the House of Representatives could pass a spending bill to keep the government operating right now but the Republican leader in the House, John Beohner, is choosing not to because 30 Republicans that won their seats with backing from the Tea Party won't vote for a spending bill that doesn't defund Obamacare. And Boehner and other Republicans going along with these 30 representatives because he and most other House Republicans are worried about facing a reelection challenge from within their own party. The blame is squarely on the Republicans right now.
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All obamacare does is make self employed people and employers pay more. Defunding it is a good idea.
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It also helps provide a lot of people who can't get health insurance the ability to get it. The uninsured get sick, and when they do, it comes at a cost to hospitals, and at a cost to the rest of us because we have to pay more.
And even if you are not in love with the program, completely shutting down the government is not a good way to get it repealed or defunded. Republicans have had their chance to keep Obamacare from being implemented, and they've failed. Pack up, go home, you've lost this round. I say it like that because it really is just a game to these people. They don't care about you unless you can write a huge check, and a lot of corporate interests have because don't like Obamacare. But the reality is that Obamacare isn't going to bankrupt a whole lot of businesses, and as for the ones that do, if you have to deny your workers health insurance to stay in business, you deserve to go bankrupt. -
And if they go bankrupt with the new system people lose jobs and get no health insurance.
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Not exactly. Like I said, this isn't going to eat into the profits of a lot of companies that much. What does eat into the profits of companies is cutting workers. Less workers equals less production. So it is actually going to be more beneficial for companies to keep their current staff in spite of paying their health insurance costs.
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