Too many orientations.
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Thread Topic: Too many orientations.
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Not all women have a vagina and not all men have a penis sooo.
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Woman
noun
An adult human female
Female
noun
of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes.
If you are part of the gender that can produce offspring, you are female. -
Female and male are biological sex, and don't necessarily link to the binary genders. They're important for medical purposes, or for if one plans on having children.
For example, someone who's FTM transgender is absolutely more likely to get cervical cancer than someone who's MTF, even though the second person is a woman. In cases like these, sex is important.
But in everyday life, it really isn't, unless that person is your sexual partner. It doesn't matter what parts your coworker has, or the person next to you on the bus. All that you need to know is their gender, if even that.
Basically, don't worry about what's in someone's pants, unless you plan to get in there too. And if you really do, take time with them and don't be a total creep. -
Please substitute the use of FTM and MTF to trans man and trans woman, respectively.
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So what you're getting at is that gender doesn't matter, so we need to make up more to explain to other people why we're different because it doesn't matter?
Sorry, but if it doesn't matter, then why do people get offended when you call them what they biologically are? -
Pardon? I don't really understand what you're trying to say. Gender does matter, as does sex, but they both have their applications.
Gender is a social construct, so it's best for pronouns and identity. Sex is a scientific matter, and holds its use there. Unless one of the first things you ask someone is about their genitals (which is a little rude, I think), sex isn't really that much of a concern until you get to the doctor's office or the bedroom. -
The point of this thread was that people are creating superficial and unnecessary sexual orientations and gender identities that serve no purpose other than to make yourself a special snowflake in the eyes of the public. This over-complicates social interactions and leaves sexual identity as a social taboo because you can't say anything without threat of offending someone who expects you to already know their sexual identity.
Can you provide any practical reason why people who make up sexual identities or define themselves different on trivial details should be given any moral grounds to stand on? Because apparently if I see someone with a 5 O'clock shadow and an adams apple, but fail to notice they prefer wearing dresses and I call them a bro, I'm the bad guy here. It's f---ing chaos.
When you leave social constructs up to the individual, you have no order or universal truth to base that social construct on. Gender is a social construct, but when people can make up whatever gender they want to be and completely disregard the ones that they already fit in favor of the special ones that they want, then you devalue that social construct.
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Trying to be special gets you nowhere and making things harder than they have to be doesn't make you different. You're still what you've always been, but now you're also an a--hole. Thank you. -
.-. I don't understand why you keep saying "make up" sexual identities, they're not "made up". No one is "trying to be special" e_e
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Bi-sexual: Someone who likes both gender almost equally.
Bi-curious: A heterosexual or homosexual person, who is also curious about dating the gender they aren't normally attracted to.
I classify myself as a very weak bi-curious, but according to you, I should be classified as bisexual which is plain wrong. -
1. Everyone I've met who doesn't fit the gender they were designated at birth is pretty chill about things. If there's a problem, don't make a big deal about it, apologize and correct yourself. Make sure you know the difference and try not to make the mistake again. Things like that happen all the time, whether they're about gender or not.
2. Not everyone fits the gender identities we've normalized. Maybe we could try normalizing those ones too? Maybe if we did, other people would realize they better identified with one of the newer choices.
This is a bad example, but let's look at it like ice cream. What if we only had vanilla and chocolate? I'm not a huge fan of either, really, so I figure out my own flavor. I start showing this flavor to other people, and they start making it too. Eventually, we're going to get to the point that enough people are familiar with this flavor that it's an option, just like vanilla and chocolate. People like having more options, and can experiment. And they find their favorite flavor, or go between flavors, and no one thinks that's bad.
It's not a problem of people being freer with gender identity and expression, it's a problem of people insisting that we can't have more options than we do now. -
A system left to the whim of the individual is open to abuse and devalue.
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You realize a lot of the more outrageous gender people are troll accounts, don't you? People like you who find the whole thing ridiculous?
Like that image you posted. The bottom two are people I've never actually found. Especially the last one. -
I wish they were trolls. Sadly they aren't.
I suggest you look up squirrelkin, planetkin, headmates, or anything else that sounds outlandish like that.
Trolls get tired after a while. These people are actually convinced of this s---. -
I'm friends with a lot of otherkin. They aren't bad, actually.
But with gender identities, usually it's not that tough. Someone's a boy, or a girl, or neither. Some people don't relate to gender at all. Best thing to do is ask for pronouns, let someone explain if they want to. People who get overly offended by gender difficulties often need to be reminded that all of this is so new to so many people.
And with sexual/romantic attraction, most of the people with these "outlandish" identities don't sound like the type you'd want to date anyway. -
Dunbar's number states that human beings can hold solid relations with and remember key details about an average of 150 people.
Statistically we meet about 3 new people every day. The average lifetime excluding early childhood years (until 5) is 62 years and on average there are 365 days in a year. This means that the average person meets 67,890 people within their lifetime.
If we can form a relation and recall details about 150 people (lets even say that these people change every year) then out of the 1,095 people you meet in a year, you can recall details about 150. So even saying that one out of every 100 people you meet holds a special sexual identity, to remember all of them you would have to dedicate 2/3rds of your memory of other people to remembering just those sexual identities.
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