Why I became an athiest...
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I was raised by a catholic family. Put in a private catholic school until 3rd grade. The school was closed down because the principal lied about the student count. The entire time I was there, I did more research than anyone else at my age and no one could answer any of my questions. None of it made sense to me and I never liked the idea of a super natural being deciding my fate. When I got out of private school I tried to do research at my public school but they forbid me to because at public school, religion isnt allowed. I searched into that and found out how many other beliefs there were than the one I had been forced to follow. I studied them and found that they all were very different and all had different idea's behind them. I figured that they all cant be right, and if one of them was right, like the christian god, why hasnt this supreme being simply made everyone follow him. Simply saying, he's testing us, is such a closed minded belief. Because if you think god has made other religions so that he may test you, then that also means he has willingly damned millions of people to hell, just so he could see if you'd fall. That isnt right. So if god didnt put other religions on earth to "test us", wouldnt that mean that somewhere along the line, someone decided to make something up? And as soon as i realized that, I realized that almost everything that a religion is anymore has been made up. Because all through history different people have always been claiming to be the hand of god and all through history people have been changing the book of god. Therefore, I figured that the original book itself, like all its predicessors, was a forgery.
I realized this about all religion. It is all a falsification made by humans to excercize some tiny control over others. After I did some more research, I found out that there was one belief, one golden belief that not only could I understand, but that answers all of my questions. Something that has never let me down and that I can identify in the world around me without a shadow of a doubt. Science was my religion. Science could answer things that no religion could answer. Science made sense. And so I followed what I knew was right. I became what made sense to me. I abandoned my forced beliefs in a magical wizard that lives in the sky, and I took up chemistry, and biology, and physics. Things that not only actually existed in the world around me, but could aslo explain the world before me, and myself better than any "god" ever could. That is why I'm an athiest. I found what I believed in. -
Good story, and I can imagine that it feels a lot better to be focused on science, where you can find answers rather than just hoping all your life that what you're doing is correct :P
I love science. But I love God at the same time. My personal belief, after what I've experienced and whatnot, is that humans indeed did make up that "Only one religion is right" thing. I think in the end, God approves of more than just one religion... I think God would look for personality and that's the only reason why I stick by my religion.
But, yes, I do like that science provides answers, where religion sometimes cannot.
Sorry to rant on your rant. Overall I agree. -
Anabella NewbieGod gives us all free will, that's why he doesn't force us to believe in him. It means more to him to having willing followers than robotic souls. And God is science, he's not some magical, non-logical being. He created the universe with his science.
The reason for deception and confusion is Satan, because Satan is all evil in the world. That doesn't mean that other religions are completely evil, because there are so many good people of every belief. It draws people away from the truth though.
I know that's probably not of any use to you, and I'm not trying to change you, I'm just kind of explaining what I believed from some of those lines. :3 -
I agree with those two.
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[Insert what Anabella and tbk said here]
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Well, I've said it many times, and I'll say it many times more.
I believe that we should focus on things we can test and see and feel and know. Because any theory we come up with is wrong.
We aren't going to be able to solve the mysteries of the universe. We need to accept what we don't know. Even atheists are wrong. Because they're saying they know something isn't true. I don't know what's true or not, but I know I'm wrong. But that might be true. See? All the questions end in unsolvable paradoxes.
But remmember; If I'm wrong, it doesn't mean you're right. If I'm right, it doesn't mean you're wrong. There's truth and false in every theory.
Thank you.
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I agree in some points in almost every religion and science. But no religion makes full sense to me. Thats why I'm nothing. I don't have a religion. I don't think science holds all the answers. I'm just gonna do what I feel is right and hope for the best.
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I believe pretty strongly in my beliefs (look at any of the rants against religious belief, I'll probably have a post about how I disagree on there)
But with all the skepticism and my own lack of pure knowledge according to everything, I have a Plan B, and Plan B is simply not care what happens and accept the inevitable as it comes.
I haven't really had to use Plan B, but that's why it's B. -
@tazia, Science doesnt claim to know all the answers. In fact, science is the only thing I've ever seen that will willingly say, "I might be wrong, but this is the proof I have to back myself up." I have never seen any religion that can say that. Even all of you who are for religion, you are backing up your beliefs on "Faith". Faith is nothing more than you convincing yourself against all evidence that something is out there. Until someone can prove to me that there is an ultimate diety out there, I wont believe in one. And I refuse to trick myself with "Faith" into believing that there is. Faith in god has only ever gotten people hurt. It's peoples faith that make them do some of the most horrific deeds imaginable.
The great crusades, was the faith of the catholic preasts persuading soldiers to go out and murder millions of people across the globe.
The dark ages, was the faith in the idea that science was a crime against god. The only reason religious figures told the people that science was a crime against god was because people were starting to realize that god can be disproven very easily. And look where that got us, 300 years of wasted lives. No progress and a crumbling society.
Even racism, with the idea of 'white mans burdon.' which was the faith that god made white people superior to any other minority and that white people need to use others like animals.
Nothing good has ever really come of faith. Even if you say something small and insignificant has happened in your life that only happened because of faith, look what it has done to society as a whole.
The best thing that faith has ever done was create the pyramids, and even they are works of science. Science is the tool of humanity. Religion; its terminal illness. -
Yes, so called christians have been real morons all throughout history.
"moron" is actually not the word I'm thinking of in my head...but I'd rather not post that word here. xP
There have also been numerous evilthingsofdoom caused by non-believers.
And heck, millions of people in the past (and even still today, in some countries) were tortured to death, burned at the stake, thrown in with wild animals, put in prison, drowned, crucified (Jesus wasn't the only one :P), and martyred just because of the mere fact that they were christians.
Yeah, it's definately the fault of christians that our world is so jacked up today. >. -
I mean, since obviously torturing millions of people to death because of their faith was not near as bad as the crusades and all that stuff, according to non-religous people.
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I think you're confusing non religious, with just another religion. Burned at the stake, drowned, torture, and crucifictions are all very ceremonial religiously based forms of execution. And it wasnt caused by people of no religioun. That can also be blamed on religioun because of the wars between religions. They killed people who didnt have the same faith as them and made sure they felt it too. It's like the salem witch trials where thousands of innocent people were murdered by their own families because they were declared 'witches'. They were burned at the stake and drowned because the local preast declared them witches. Science had nothing to do with this. Athiests had nothing to do with this.
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I don't want to put what I believe here, I'm making a new thread, but pretty much I agree with tazia
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What's funny is, I've always enjoyed being around kind religious people, of all beliefs. I suppose I have a harder time around evolution and humanism because it doesn't explain the soul and spirituality for me. It's too man-made to me. Whether it be Buddhists or Muslims, or whatever, I find them more interesting than non-religious. I mean that in no offensive way.
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I just don't like to even think that there is nothing after death, nothing to live for, no point in courage, honor, victories...nothing.
So that's why it simply doesn't work that way for me. To me it is IMPOSSIBLE.
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