So....
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Thread Topic: So....
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My religion teacher was talking about homosexuality and how it is a struggle to have same sex attractions because of the confusion and hate, which is completely correct and I agree with her on that.
Then she was talking about how two people of the same sex cannot get married because it doesn't fit in to the "Moral Relationship Measuring Stick," FFTF (Full, Faithful, Total, Fruitful). She also made it clear that if a couple is heterosexual but one of the two is not capable of having sex then they cannot get married because their marriage would not be fruitful (if someone is infertile, however, he/she can marry in the Catholic Church).
Then she informed us that in the Church, a marriage is not complete until the couple has sex.
So I have concluded that marriage according to the Catholic Church is about sex and nothing more. Which is fine, as long as it stays in the church and does not affect anyone outside of the church.
Then she basically said that because of the Church's view, it shouldn't be legal. She never said it outright, but she did, in fact, imply it.
Then, she said, "Ever since gay rights have been pushed, pedophiles have been pushing for marriage to children."
I calmly reminded her that gay marriage is between two adults of the same gender consenting and agreeing to marry, while a child marrying an adult would be between one sick person and an innocent person who does not have the mental or reasoning skills necessary for understanding what was going on.
She simply turned to me and said, "Ah, but that is exactly what people were saying about gay marriage ten years ago."
Ten years ago, I was drawing pictures of my wedding day, and sometimes I'd draw it with a man, sometimes with a woman. Because of that, people began to try to cure me of the gay before it was too late, which led to many years of denial and hatred directed towards myself, not a turn from bisexuality to being straight.
I simply cannot handle this woman anymore. I have tried being open to her and listening to her, but she is not open to coming to an understanding that people can't bend to her religious views and that pedophilia is different from homosexuality.
It really bothers me also because she does have some gay friends and she cares about them, but she just doesn't understand, and she refuses to understand. She is so nice too, and I'm torn between disliking her for what she has been saying about gay marriage and liking her because she is so sweet and caring. -
I support dat lady
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You agree that homosexuality is similar to pedophila?
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I agree with rascal
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Thank you!
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Infertile peeps can't get married? Well, at least the church is being consistent with their crazy now.
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Infertile people can, but paralyzed people can't.
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Wow, that's some f---ing Nazi s---. For real, that was an actual policy in Nazi Germany. Ok, it was actually that the physically and mentally handicapped weren't allowed to breed. But the end effect is the same in both cases.
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That's some bulls--- right there.
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I agree. The reasoning behind it is that the marriage isn't fruitful because they can't engage in sexual activities and have kids. But that makes no sense because infertile are allowed to marry, and they can't have kids. Also, in the Church, a couple isn't married until they have sex.
Conclusion: marriage is about sex.
Tis be f---ed up. Marriage is supposed to be about love, not f---ing someone. -
I don't agree with that lady, because I'm not Catholic.
I'm a Christian and in my religion marriage is not about sex. That's just...insane.
I'm against gay marriage, but I don't think gay people are pedophiles; I see being gay as more of a mental disorder. But these are just my opinions.
My question is why are you taking the class if you can't stand the lady?
Is it a school class? Because in that case, she is just trying to inform you of the Catholic views. You may be against what she is saying or not be Catholic, but you don't need to be life "Imma barf cuz of this" or "this lady is just crazy she make me barf". (Idk I just felt like using improper grammar xD) You can just choose not to be a Catholic or follow the Catholic views.
@The Geek --- we all know you're a girl. And based off of what you've said I'm guessing you're also a lesbian. Yet you say you're a Christian and that you support that lady and that you're against gay marriage and such....so I'm really confused xD -
I am Catholic and I attend a Catholic school, so the c,ass is required. And yes, I am going to say that it's sick when someone says that pedophilia and same sex attractions are the same. Being gay is not a mental disorder. A person's sexuality has to do with who the person is, not with how messed up he or she is. I should know, I'm bisexual, and I hated myself for the longest time because of it. Mainly because people were trying to "cure" me before it was "too late." Let me tell you what therapy to "cure" homosexuality does, it doesn't "cure" anyone, but it makes people hate themselves for being "unnatural, wrong, and sick." It makes people cut, burn, and kill themselves. It makes people want to die because they disgust themselves. People who think homosexuality is a mental disease need to take another look at the world. You can't fall in love because of some disorder. Homophobia isn't just sickening, it hurts. We, as people, deserve our rights. We deserve to be with whoever we fall in love with. If I fall in love with another woman, I would want to marry her so I could proclaim my love for her, share a name with her, and start a family with her. Just because I'm the same gender as the person I love doesn't take away the fact that my love is real or that we deserve to be together.
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Here I quote Kevin Labby to the best of my ability, he is a kickass preacher at a presbyterian church.
I probaly not word for word but the general idea.
"I have nothing against homosexuals, some of my best friends were homosexual, however they should overcome their homosexual desires to help further Gods plan for earth." [insert some stories of his christian friends] -
That's fine, as long as it stays in the church.
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Don't let your religious beliefs get in the way of my legal rights. Otherwise, there would be no point to the separation of church and state.
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