Sometimes, I wish that everyone would suffer horrible deaths
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Thread Topic: Sometimes, I wish that everyone would suffer horrible deaths
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Maru, Do you even read the internet lately? On what humans are doing than killing people, dying, being shallow petty incomprehensible b----es? They are growing more smarter and more efficient than ever if you ask me. I don't have a problem with humanity. I just have a problem with humans that are against their own kind.
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XShidoKusubanaX NewbieBut
You're against us. -
Shido: I am against you in arguements. Not these sort of things. FYI.
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I'm not using our lack of usefulness as an excuse to die. I'll endure life here and die when it happens.
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I can't believe there are people here seriously defending existential nihilism. What's wrong with you? This topic has been discussed to death, I thought humanity as a whole was done with it.
Where do we even begin? We could start with Alan Turing, who argued that even if life is meaningless, humans create and ascribe their own meaning to their existence, thus giving it meaning through sentience. Regardless of whether or not you affect the universe at large, if you accomplish your own meaning, then life itself has had meaning.
Or we could go with a religious argument, that life was created by a higher deity for whatever reason, and that the ultimate purpose of life is to become closer to that deity. And while the most obvious example is Christian, the theory can apply to anything from Buddhism to Jedi.
We could go with a biological argument, but that was always weak in my opinion and I wouldn't use it as a cornerstone for my argument.
We could even turn the argument of existential pointlessness on itself. Okay, humans can't effect anything and have no affect on the universe at all. So what? How does that change anything? Were you planing on destroying the sun anytime soon? Even if life is pointless, what have you accomplished in its pointlessness? If meaning is an essence where did it go if the nihilist claims it's not there?
And finally, we could go with an artistic view. 'You only go through life once, so remember to stop and smell the flowers,' I remember to smell the flowers, and watch the sunset, and taste delicious foods and go to great places, and it's beautiful. I don't need meaning to appreciate beauty, because beauty if meaningful in itself.
But of course, these arguments always end in the classic 'I know you are but what am I' scenario. Where you claim I don't have meaning, I claim I do, and we don't make any progress. -
I like your first argument. Thanks.
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"even if life is meaningless, humans create and ascribe their own meaning to their existence, thus giving it meaning through sentience. Regardless of whether or not you affect the universe at large, if you accomplish your own meaning, then life itself has had meaning."
I can actually agree with you on this. -
I know, it's my personal favorite. Shame it's so specific though.
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