Hoping For My Future
Thread Topic: Hoping For My Future
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Like I'm not trying to argue anything lol just giving hope for the future? There's a few things I'm excited for, the economy mostly and probably more respect from world leaders, which could mean less chance for war. Like America might want a woman president but other countries don't care for women in power.
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yes, i remember feeling tense throughout his presidency. ever since he became president, i've seen a lot more people in my community and online become comfortable with being openly racist, xenophobic and/or homo or transphobic. all in the name of "he says it like it is".
he says these crazy ass statements like "grab her by the p---- ", "if ivanka weren't my daughter i might date her", "there should be a complete shutdown on muslims entering our country", "[mexicans] are r*pists, all they bring is dr*gs and crime", "i have fabulous friends who are gay but ultimately i am a traditionalist", there's a lot more but these are the standout ones i remember him saying during interviews and rallies. (i'll be happy to find sources if you like)
he kinda cracks open the door for some of his craziest followers to have these wildly immoral conversations/opinions. i also believe that the senate/house politicians who side with him are more likely to back conservative or oppressive laws being passed such as bans on abortion or access to gender affirming care. so ultimately to me, it's understandable how some may be feeling anxious in a country where we should all feel comfortable to express ourselves freely and make the choices we want for ourselves -
i guess for me i'm a bit more scared of some of his followers. they are extremely passionate, some of them n*zis. like, you never know when you could be talking to someone who doesn't believe you should be able to get married, that your family commits crimes, or that you eat domestic animals. absolutely wild
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the last two aren't personal experiences for me but yeah.. it was just a moral thing for me. what issues are the most important to me? what kind of person would be representing ALL of us? those were the questions i was thinking about while voting
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my history teacher is very invested in politics. he told us about the American election (i live in Australia). his reason for endorsing trump was because he didn't like war and trump somehow reflected those values. he said he knew that trump was sexist, racist, and a r*pist, but it didn't matter to him, a white man, because trump represented his other values. i think that says a lot about trump's followers
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that actually kinda sums up how i feel abt him and why i voted for him, tbh-
also the fact that i just voted for him bc my parents did lmao -
Trump has no redeeming qualities for me. If American troops and resources are taken away from Ukraine and Gaza, there can be devastating impacts on those countries and wars. Trump can’t stop those wars. The fact he’s friends with Putin and Kim Jong Un doesn’t make it better, because he’s less likely to continue to help Ukraine through the war. Trump is blatantly racist, homophobic, sexist, and creepy (towards his own daughter, too). He also has r*pe allegations, which I believe to be true. That’s why I don’t like him, but as an Australian and someone who’s never been to America, my opinion probably isn’t as important as those of a US citizen lol
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Oh no I don't disagree with those statements at all, Trump says some pretty horrible things. I was just talking about quality of life in general. There's going to be discrimination against lgbt+ as far as the abortion issues and trans issues go, but just to think positively here, there might also be great changes for the economy, affordable housing, keeping us out of war, crime, the border crisis, etc -- which also affects the lgbt+ community.
I'm just saying that Kamala probably lost because she literally said she would not change a single thing from Biden's administration, and the state of our country under his presidency is not good. -
She also said she wanted the minimum wage to at least $15 an hour. Inflation makes all the prices go up, and the main reason the economy was so good during 2020 is because no one was doing in-person things.
I made a few points in my own thread I'll copy-paste here for how I personally think about this, but I do want to state that you can absolutely feel any way you want about it with information you have;
Good prices of 2020 while Trump was president
- As of July 20, 2020, debt held by the public was $20.57 trillion, and intragovernmental holdings were $5.94 trillion, for a total of $26.51 trillion.
- When the pandemic began in 2020, inflation initially fell as many people reduced their social interactions and lessened their consumption of in-person services.
Harris's support of raising the minimum wage in response to raising costs:
- Vice President Kamala Harris said for the first time Tuesday that she backs hiking the federal minimum wage to at least $15 an hour
Why we haven't done that yet:
- Two-thirds of American voters favor raising the federal minimum wage to $15, including a majority of Democrats but less than half of Republicans.
- President Donald Trump said during Thursday night's presidential debate that he would “consider” raising the federal minimum wage to $15 per hour
- Unlike Trump, Harris proposed pairing the elimination of federal taxes on tip income with a bump in the national minimum wage, which has been $7.25 an hour since 2009.
If you want to be paid the same, even though inflation makes everything else cost more, would you be okay with $3.10 an hour, like in 1980? Before inflation? After all, if hiking the wages would increase inflation, then we should just stay at where we were, right? How about even earlier? $0.30 an hour, in 1940? Is that okay?
Things go up in price, money gradually grows to be worth less than it is. Her offer was to simply up the price we're paid to match the fact that everything else is going up in price. Republicans don't want that; even my mom can confirm that she doesn't want that, because then it'll cost more and more. But what's happening is that we're falling behind financially.
But, that's just what I think based on the research I did, I could very well be wrong and just be thinking about it from a different perspective. -
I think the idea that "trump didn't endorse project 2025 therefore it's all hogwash" is missing the forest for the trees.
I understand that it sounds alarmist and that alarmism is a dog whistle for radical conspiracies. We should consider the implications from both extremes.
If it's completely untrue and never happens, what's the harm? We'll just have another 4 years of lackluster leadership at best and try and undo the regular ol' republican bs the next time Democrats are in office.
Now consider, if it's completely true, or even partly true, America as we know it will be radically transformed into a Christian nationalist state with a repeal to many civil rights and we will most likely experience severe economic repercussions. This, along with the time trump has said that if his supporters vote for him they'll "never have to worry about voting again" is why many are concerned that Trump will erode democracy and we might not get another election, or that if there is another election we won't be able to trust that it will be held fairly.
"Absolute power corrupts absolutely." With the Republicans holding a supermajority in every branch of government they now have a taste of ultimate power. Democrats and moderate law makers are going to work very hard to fight back, but ultimately we lost a lot of safeguards in the checks and balances in America with this election. There's a reason we never outlawed the filibuster; the government recognized that gridlocking was sometimes essential to keep either side from steam rolling their ideas. We no longer have the ability to prevent that kind of policy steam rolling.
With all that being said, let's use context clues and practice drawing conclusions from inferences like our English teachers taught us.
1. A straight up endorsement is political suicide. No sane politician campaigns on openly fascist rhetoric. It's implicit by nature.
In spite of this however, Trump is actively implementing and advocating for the policies outlined in 2025. People like to hold onto the one time he said he wouldn't advocate for a full abortion ban, (like Trump has ever been consistent on his stance on abortion or never lied lmao) but that again is missing the forest for the trees.
The following are all the ways trump had advocated for the policies in project 2025.
• Trump proposes to insert more political appointees who are ideologically aligned with him. He openly advocates for replacing many of the nonpartisan career civil servants by proposing an executive order that would put political appointees into any “confidential, policy-determining, policymaking, or policy-advocating positions.” Let us not forget that Trump did exactly this at the end of his last term, and Biden immediately repealed it.
•Trump has actively campaigned on gutting the administrative and federal state. The overturning of the Chevron Doctrine and the presidential immunity act were both put in place by the supreme court judges he assigned. Trump has said he plans on going after all his political enemies and the people he has assigned as the heads of different departments have all voted to gut them entirely. This is not limited to his appointment of Elon and Kennedy, but those are two popular names who have both publicly vowed to gut our government. Whether or not you think the administrative state is bloated and needs reform, cutting hundreds of thousands of jobs and consolidating the power from those administrations is not only tyrannical, it would tank our economy and destroy the already lackluster regulations we have.
• trump and Vance have both called for a top-to-bottom overhaul of the DOJ and FBI.
• Trump's tax policies mirror those outlined on project 2025 alarmingly well.
• Vance is a vocal advocate for the "nuclear family" and the expulsion of the "woke agenda" from modern life, including but not limited to education reform, banning IVF, and has regularly gestured to anti-LGBT and trans policies and sentiments.
2. The majority of Trump's campaign funds came from right wing billionaires who are connected with project 2025. They are quite literally bankrolling him.
3. Trump chose Vance has his VP. Vance is Peter Theil's protege. Peter Theil is one of the biggest donors to the Republican party including to many of Project 2025's sponsors.
4. Vance wrote the foreword for project 2025 and all his political rhetoric mirrors the beliefs of the heritage foundation to a T. He has openly advocated for many of the right wing nationalist sentiments it holds. Vance also wrote part of Kevin Robert's book. Kevin Robert's is the president of the heritage foundation and Robert had publicly stated that “[Vance is] absolutely going to be one of the leaders—if not the leader—of our movement.”
5. It is not formally tied to Trump, but it was developed by former members of his administration and other Trump allies. Trump has the Heritage Foundation for its policy work.
The team behind Project 2025 includes 140 people who worked for Trump in his administration, including six former Cabinet secretaries and four people he nominated as ambassadors
Trump has also endorsed Heritage’s policy work 2022. He has said that the group was “going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do … when the American people give us a colossal mandate.”
6. The people behind Project 2025 includes director Paul Dans and former Trump White House personnel leaders Spencer Chretien, who also served as Trump’s special assistant, and Troup Hemenway.
Other groups listed as participating in the project include ex-Trump adviser Stephen Miller’s America First Legal, legal group Alliance Defending Freedom, Liberty University, Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America and Turning Point USA.
Other notable Trump allies associated with it include the former Housing Secretary Dr. Ben Carson, former Deputy Homeland Security Secretary Ken Cuccinelli, former HHS Civil Rights Director Roger Severino and former Trump advisor Peter Navarro,
So with all that being said, the "project 2025 is debunked" line is propaganda that is being circulated by Republicans and moderates to discredit the very real potential but not explicit threat that project 2025 and a trump presidency represents.
I personally would rather Trump be in office than Vance, so while I doubt an impeachment is possible anyways I hope no one tries. Trump at least has a mind of his own and fancies himself the head honcho. I trust Vance far less than I trust Trump to not implement project 2025 in it's entirety. I don't think Trump personally is aligned with everything the Heritage Foundation stands for, but we all need to understand that the threat it poses doesn't start with or end with trump. The Heritage Foundation has been around for 20+ years with the explicit purpose of implementing all these ideas and they won't stop with Trump. They'll simply pass the mantle along to the next Republican president. I'm grateful for Trump's shiny spine. His arrogant headstrong nature is literally the only thing holding us back from a Christian fascist dictatorship.
I won't stop sharing these ideas from the rooftop because people need to understand that it's not alarmism, it's a threat.
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