Immigration Reform offically off President Obama's agenda.
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Thread Topic: Immigration Reform offically off President Obama's agenda.
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Demonjoe NoviceI was surprised to see a Yahoo News article saying that Immigration Refrom was off the president's agenda. The believed reason is that Obama doesn't want to pass a controversial bill like that on an election year. He also wants to work on Cap and Trade. Have the Republicans won on this one? Or do the Democrats have something in mind?
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tongue NewbieImmigration reform was essentially a political ploy for the Democrats to capitalize on the controversy over what happened in Arizona. This fell apart not because the Democrats figured out that public opinion isn't in their favor but rather that they wouldn't be able to get the kind of bill they wanted and it would be a wasted debate.
Senator Lindsey Graham did say he was going to stop working with Kerry and Lieberman on cap and trade if immigration moved forward, so that could have something to do with this decision. No complaints from me- the sooner we pass an environmental bill the better. -
tongue NewbieThis is only off of the agenda for now, though. I have a hard time believing that Obama is uninterested in passing immigration reform. It's a huge national security issue we can't be complacent about. Obama knows this- he's a smart guy. Immigration reform will likely come up again after the midterm elections.
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Demonjoe NoviceI'm against Cap and Trade because it would make electricity prices sky rocket. There are also around 1600$ worth of tax increases in it too.
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tongue NewbieYou obviously don't believe in global warming. I don't think anyone who sees how much of a problem we're causing would be concerned with the possible side-effects of cap and trade. Any environmental bill is going to need alot of funding for alternative energy sources, because cap and trade is going to force oil and coal to start raising prices.
If anything, cap and trade may not be enough to combat climate change. In Japan, carbon emissions have increased since cap and trade was implemented. The system of cap and trade doesn't really phase out coal and oil. What would work best is a carbon tax, a tax on emissions. There's no way that would actually pass right now, considering cap and trade isn't even an easy sell in the current political environment. -
Demonjoe NoviceI believe in global warming. I question its causes. Historically there has been concern about this for about 100 years. In the 70s they talked about global cooling, in the 40s global warming, the 30s global cooling, and at the turn of the 20th century, global warming again. Earth going from period of warmth to cooling is natural. Actually regulations on the fuel economy would only get rid of about 1/16th of the temperature rise expected by the year 2100, which comes to about 0.0072 degrees Fahrenheit, but this would add at least 1300$ to the cost of every new car made.
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tongue NewbieI think it's pretty clear that humanity is causing global warming, or at the very least we're the leading cause. In 2008, the amount of carbon in the atmosphere was at a record high, and 8 of the last 11 years have been the hottest years on record. Also for the first time in history there is a Northwest Passage through the Arctic because there is so little ice during the summer, and it's projected there will be no summer ice within a decade. And more than anything, it's absurd to think that modern society can harm the environment so much without there being natural consequences.
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