Anyone wanna Debate?
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Thread Topic: Anyone wanna Debate?
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You stated with your first point that the US is not sending proper medical supplies to those in West Africa. You also stated that we (the U.S.) should not send troops, doctors, and volunteers out there without them being equipped. However, according to the U.S. News, "Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg and his wife, Dr. Priscilla Chan, drew attention to the CDC Foundation last week when they contributed $25 million to aid the fight against Ebola. Their high-profile donation has brought attention to the crisis in West Africa and caused an uptick in individual donations." Also from the U.S. News, "The Ebola-related money goes toward medical supplies, lab equipment, personal protective equipment, communication campaign tools, computers, cellphones, scanning thermometers, employment and training of local staff, generators, ready-to-eat meals, transportation and fuel for specimen transport, burial support and translation services." People are privately funding money that is going towards the supplies that you stated are not reaching their destinations. Please explain how this is not "sending the proper supplies". People, ordinary people, are working to donate and send supplies out there. How can you state this isn't helping? (Date of article: Oct. 22, 2014)
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Okay, first off you have tried to refute one of my points by saying that the US is not sending proper medical supplies, HOWEVER yes ebola money is going towards the medical supplies yet as stated by my evidence, THEY ARE NOT USED, and are left alone at docks. You also tried to say that we shouldnt send volunteers and such, but the point we are trying to make here is that if you want these people to take a 90 percent chance of getting the ebola virus and then spreading it to the United STates that is totally fine.. unless you want our population to suffer like West Africa in which they need help immediately.
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Since the time engagement has gone by so fast, our third point is that the US hasnt confirmed helping to prevent the spread of ebola after the Americans have gotten the virus.
Our 4th point is that the US is focused rather on other charities than the ebola epidemic.
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I would like the Opposition speaker to start their speech.
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I'm writing it, please wait for a moment.
Question, am I limited to a number of posts, or can I space it out? -
You may space it out. It;s up to you.
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why do we need time tho
*shakes head and snorts*
Anyways~
Intro: Ebola has become a world-wide known disease that has thrown fear into several people's hearts. It has scared people into thinking that nothing can be done to help it, that no one will be able to help with this crisis. However, that is quite untrue. There is a country that can do such a thing, and it's the U.S. Not only CAN the U.S. help, we HAVE helped.
Hi my name is Dark22978 from GoToQuiz, we (I) the opposition strongly disagree with the topic the U.S. has not done enough to combat Ebola.
Before I go onto my own points, I would like to refute the proposition's cases.
You attempted to refute my POI to your first argument, however. Yes, some supplies were left at the docks, but that doesn't mean that EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR AND SUPPLIES SENT were left there! You only stated that a few crates were left sitting there. This doesn't add up to the thousands of other dollars and supplies that have been sent. You cannot say that every bit of supplies was left there to be unused. Also, I did not state that volunteers should not be sent, I stated that YOU stated we shouldn't send them out there. The volunteers that are sent by the U.S. are well needed, not to mention they are proof we have done enough to stop Ebola.
Also, the proposition has stated as their second point that medical officials have lack of training into combating this disease. However, according to CDC, training is held for people who want to help fight the Ebola disease. "As part of a comprehensive and coordinated response to the 2014 Ebola epidemic in West Africa, CDC provides an introductory training course for licensed clinicians (nurses, physicians and other healthcare providers) intending to work in an Ebola Treatment Unit (ETU) in Africa. This course is held in the United States. The goals of this course are to:
-Provide information on the epidemiology and transmission of EVD and the current Ebola epidemic.
-Describe infection prevention and control principles as they pertain to working in ETUs in Africa.
-Demonstrate the skills needed to work safely and efficiently in a well-designed ETU.
-Describe how to evaluate personal and environmental safety within an ETU environment.
-Describe the basic principles of clinical care and management of the patient with EVD.
-Describe patient and community assessment and intervention strategies for Ebola treatment and control." Anyone who takes this course can learn how to deal with Ebola and help, and they look for mainly U.S. peoples whom are registered to take such them. This shows that they're trying to get the U.S. actively involved. -
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Please excuse me if any ,s or 's disappear.
Our first argument is we've sent military to help train people to treat/contain Ebola patients.
My reasoning for this is the U.S. has sent military assistance to places that have had many cases of Ebola or are in danger of getting such cases. These people have been trained and know what to do if someone has Ebola or if they are in danger themselves of getting it. They know what theyre doing and are prepared to do what it takes to protect the people.
My evidence for this is according to General David M. Rodriguez on October 7th, 2014, "Recently, I discussed the progress of the response with the president, who underscored the pivotal role of American leadership in containing the epidemic at its source. In support of U.S. government effort, the military focus is on providing logistics, training, and engineering support in conjunction with the greater inter agency effort. We stood up the headquarters, joint force command, United Assistance in Monrovia, Liberia, to provide regional coordination of U.S. military support to the U.S. and international relief efforts. Finally, we placed two additional mobile medical labs into operation last week, significantly increasing the capacity for rapidly diagnosing Ebola. We are also establishing a facility capable of training healthcare support workers, enabling health care workers to safely provide direct medical care to patients. Now, this is very important, and I want you to help us to tell our families and the American public the health and safety of the team supporting this mission is our priority. Let me assure you, by providing pre-deployment training, adhering to strict medical protocols while deployed, and carrying out carefully planned reintegration measures based on risk and exposure, I am confident that we can ensure our service members' safety and the safety of their families and the American people."
The impact to this argument is we already have people that are being trained as we speak to help the fight against Ebola. The U.S. has done a lot, to be risking lives of military men to help fight Ebola. We, the U.S., have people risking their lives to help. The proposition shouldn't say we aren't doing enough when we are. -
Yes?
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They have stated about the CDC however, according to the New York Times, (Jan 14, 2015) The much the CDC can actually do is just RESEARCH. Even if the CDC members do go to help, as stated majority of these workers are volunteers and DO NOT know how to train and cure the disease itself.
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Okay, so you stated that all CDC can do is research. However, this is not true. As I stated, the CDC provided CLASSES for CLASSIFIED nurses, doctors, and volunteers to attend to. They teach people how to deal with the virus. I never stated that the CDC was going to do research, in fact, they aren't the organization that is dealing with such. I only stated they train people how to deal with Ebola while you stated that next to no one knew anything about Ebola. CDC has made an impact by training said workers and volunteers. They were trained by CDC and are fit to help. Therefore, your argument no longer stands because I have proven that people have been taught and your statistics no longer stand.
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False?
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Our second argument is we've already spent money on Ebola.
My reasoning for this is the U.S. has already spent thousands of dollars on Ebola patients and treatment, not to mention that our president is asking for millions to put towards it once more. We have contributed to aiding people, whether the proposition is willing to admit to it or not.
My evidence is according to USA today on November 25th, 2014, "Treating an Ebola patient at U.S. hospitals costs $25,000 to $50,000 a day. The Department of Defense which had spent nearly $200 million fighting Ebola in Liberia as of Nov. 12 will quarantine 3,000 troops returning from West Africa for 21 days, cutting into their work time and productivity." Also, according to a chart taken from a blog, we [the U.S.] have pledged over $750 million to help fight Ebola, millions more than other countries.
See this link for chart:
I2: We [The U.S.] are doing what we can to help fight ebola. We have spent millions towards this cause, and were continuing to make that amount reach higher amounts. We've already done enough to help handle the situation; Our help will be just as useful as what other countries have contributed, especially since we've given the most help to those in need.
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