ATHEISM IS A RELIGION aka A CULT
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Thread Topic: ATHEISM IS A RELIGION aka A CULT
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Yeah... look dude, Read a book or something and stop using the internet...because 9/10 times this informtion is highly incorrect or is an opinion. You rarely find FACTS on the internest take this example Google "Renee shibik pizza man"
Look at how many different stories there are some say she kill the pizza man others say the pizza man killed her! Like both I and Dark said...don't use information from the internet... -
Meep.
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Some internet sources are reliable. Many are not. Learned that the hard way with the Klingons....
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Why are we feeding into this douche pickle?
It's not an email, Alter. -
Yeah, I had an aneurysm of sheer stupidity! This guy is relentless! Whatever!
Bye!
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP! -
DarkestKiss NoviceI find it interesting to see how he'll reply.
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I honestly was face palming by page 5.
Okay, where to begin.
I'm talking to everyone. Not ego. I'm not going to feed that.
-He has presented over a dozen definitions for a "cult" and only one of them even vaguely can barely relate to atheism.
-The supreme court ruled that atheism is protected under the first amendment. Stating that it was protected under "freedom of religion". That is freedom to practice any religion, or none at all. Ontop of this, Ego is using quotes from CHRISTIAN politicians in the 1960's. Hardly a credible source.
-Adolf Hitler used Christianity as the backbone of his attacks. That was the source and his excuse. Stalin was clinically paranoid and caused the atrocities he did out of said paranoia. Atheism was not his driving force. -
Alter2Ego NewbieALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:
Notice the atheist apologists showing up trying to hop, skip, and jump around court rulings that clearly define Atheism as Religion. It seems the atheist apologists are convinced that if they scoff at the court decisions, it will make the fact that Atheism is Religion disappear. Facts are stubborn things. They never go away.
QUESTION: Since when can anybody be granted protection under the First Amendment right to "freedom of religion" unless they are indeed a religion?
ANSWER: Never! But with the following exception:
Only in the personal delusions of someone like barberbob2 who lapped his tail and ran from my Precision in Nature thread. He cut tail and ran when he could not face the fact that since 26 elements on the Periodic Table required the deliberate intervention of intelligent humans, the remaining 92 natural elements on the very same Periodic Table--which clearly are not man-made and are far more complex than the man-made ones--likewise must have required the intervention of an intelligent Designer/God. When I question barberbob2 about this, he refused to answer my question and instead, he started cursing me out. Of course I did not respond, since I figured it was best for barberbob2 to continue making a fool of himself by demonstrating his intellectual dishonesty. Finally, barberbob2 lapped his disgusting tail and ran from my Precision in Nature thread.
Now he's in this thread trying to talk his way around the U.S. Supreme Court decision that clearly states Atheism is Religion.
Below is part of the 2005 Kaufman case taken from the official court transcript in which an imprisoned atheist sued for his religious rights. Keep your eyes on the words in bold print within the body of the quotation.
---------------------------------------419 F.3d 678------------------------------------
-------------------James J. KAUFMAN, Plaintiff-Appellant,----------------------
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--------------Gary R. McCAUGHTRY, et al., Defendants-Appellees.-------------
--------------------------------No. 04-1914.-------------------------------------
-----------United States Court of Appeals, Seventh Circuit.--------------------
--------------------Submitted October 26, 2004.*------------------------------
--------------------Decided August 19, 2005.-----------------------------------
* We begin with the main event: Kaufman's argument that the prison officials violated his constitutional rights when they refused to give him permission to start a study group for atheist inmates at the prison. The events underlying Kaufman's lawsuit occurred while he was an inmate at Wisconsin's Waupun Correctional Institution. Kaufman sued the then-warden of Waupun, Gary R. McCaughtry, in part in his individual capacity for damages, and so he remains a party despite the fact that Waupun now has a different warden and Kaufman is now at a different institution, the Jackson Correctional Institution. While at Waupun, Kaufman submitted an official form titled "Request for New Religious Practice," in which he asked to form an inmate group interested in humanism, atheism, and free speaking. The group would work "[t]o stimulate and promote Freedom of Thought and inquiry concerning religious beliefs, creeds, dogmas, tenets, rituals and practices[, and to] educate and provide information concerning religious beliefs, creeds, dogmas, tenets, rituals, and practices." See Kaufman v. McCaughtry, 2004 WL 257133, *4 (W.D.Wis. Feb.9, 2004). Kaufman also submitted a list of atheist groups and literature. The officials concluded that Kaufman's request was not motivated by "religious" beliefs. Accordingly, rather than evaluating the proposal under the state's relatively more flexible policy for new religious groups, see Wis. Admin. Code DOC 309.61, they considered it under the procedure for forming a new inmate activity group, see Wis. Admin. Code DOC 309.365. Applying the latter standard, they denied the request, stating that they were not forming new activity groups at that time.
http colon //caselaw.lp.findlaw dot com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&vo l=367&invol=488
ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:
Did you notice what was the title of the application form the imprisoned atheist filled out? It was a form entitled "Request for New Religious Practice," and it was specifically for the formation of a religious study group for atheists and humanists.
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"That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth." (Psalms 83:18) -
Ego, you're sounding desperate here.
Most everyone here has seen how your "precision of nature" thread went. It's not that I didn't explain things. I did. It's that you ignored it. You totally ignored it, and then are continuing to go around and scoff about and decree that you were the victor.
Even your current argument is pathetic. You are taking a court ruling from the 1960's about an Atheist wanting to pursue further learning in the prison system, and misquoting, misusing, and misinterpreting as much as possible to try and make things look like Atheism ("A" meaning lack of; and "theism" meaning the belief in a theistic God.) is a religion. If you're going to take every word the United states Legal system says as unquestionable truth, then you should be warned that it is illegal to say gesundheit since a ruling in WWII. That was never disbanded.
And on a personal note;
fuck off... You have no allies here. You aren't making any progress. Nobody is listening to you. Take your ignorance somewhere else. -
Alter2Ego NewbieALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:
Notice that the intellectually dishonest barberbob2 has reverted to his usual foul language now that he realizes he cannot overcome the fact that Atheism is a Religion aka a cult--of which he is a prominent member. Remember, people only revert to foul language when they realize they have lost the battle intellectually.
This is the same tail lapping barbarbob2 who ran from my Precision in Nature thread. He did this after claiming the 92 natural elements on the Periodic Table created themselves. Mind you, he acknowledged that 26 of the same elements required the intervention of intelligent beings who happen to be humans. In other words, as long as something is created by humans, it logically requires intelligent intervention. But things that are far more complex than what humans can create is considered to have created themselves--according to intellectually dishonest barberbob2.
This is the same barberbob2 that is now insisting that the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling, that Atheism is Religion, does not mean a thing. Anything that barberbob2 cannot overcome "does not mean a thing." That's what it boils down to.
Is this hypocrisy or what?
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"That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth." (Psalms 83:18) -
You know, I was actually almost asleep. But I felt the need to check here one last time, and low and behold, you posted again. Aren't I just so lucky.
The literal 1 time I said fuck, is not a fall back. In fact, it had absolutely nothing to do with my entire post. Picking at details is a defense mechanism though. And you've been displaying that, beautifully.
I never ran and you are misquoting me. I said that 26 elements were RECREATED by humans. I gave a detailed description on atomic decomposition and the nuclear fusion that takes place to form the elements initially. I gave examples and a logical explanation. No "divine creator" was needed. Only basic chemistry and physics. Why do you feel the need to diminish nature with the idea that it was all simplified down to a creator?
I also never said that the supreme court rulings mean nothing. I said that a ruling regarding FREEDOM OF RELIGION does not automatically mean that anyone benefiting from it is religious. A man wanted to study. He had to apply to the first amendment. 1960's Christian politicians call atheism a religion. The literal definition of atheism is "lack of religion". You had to fall back to the definition of a "cult". But no, even that didn't work. You listed over a dozen definitions of the word "cult" and picked the one that suited you. And under that definition, a book club is a cult. A movie fan base is a cult. A knitting group is a cult. This does not make Atheism a religion. It makes you a desperate person who is willing to use anything he can(poorly) to try and feel like you're right.
And at the risk of everything I've just said being ignored and you telling everyone that I'm relying on profanities, FUCK YOU. -
Please.You're the least reasonable creature on earth ego.
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DarkestKiss NoviceIf he answers to barberbob's post I'll probably die of laughter.
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I think this guy's stupid and I'm not even atheist.
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Hopefully he's nothing more than a troll...
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