Proofs for the existence of God.
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Thread Topic: Proofs for the existence of God.
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nikorb NewbieIn response to Hunteriscool, Im writing this.
If you post a reply that is mean, hateful, or rude, it will be ignored totally by me.
Anyway, below is a shortened essay of proofs.
Through the use of human reason alone, man can know that God exists. Not only does reason tell us that God exists, it also reveals many important things about God: that He is one, spiritual, eternal, and uncreated. Some things about God cannot be known by human reason alone, such as the Trinity and the Incarnation. These mysteries can only be known by public revelation.
How can reason tell us that God exists? There are five classic proofs for the existence of God. St. Thomas Auinas lists them in the Summa Theologiae:
The need for a Prime Mover.
The need for a First Cause.
The need for a Necessary Being.
The need for a Supremely Perfect Being.
The need for an Intelligent Designer.
Proofs 1,3, and 4e highly philosophical and thus not ideal to use with Atheists. It is easir to explain with a scientific method for them.
The need for a First Cause.
Everyone with the use of reason can quickly understand that everything in the material universe is explained by a previous cause. Nothing begins to exist without a cause. Nothing can cause its own eistence. Every material object is the end product of a long chain of causes. If we go back far enough, we end up asking the ultimte questins: why does matter exist at all? Where does it come from?
Just like every other material object in the universe, matter itself needs a previous cause tp explain its existence. Since nothing can cause itself, why does matter exist? The only answer is that some power outside the material universe created matter to begin with. That power must be a spirit, because it is outside the material universe. That power must be infinite to create something out of absolutely nothing. The gap between nothing and something, between non-beng and actual existence, is infinite. It takes an infinite power to bridge that infinite gap.Only God has infinite power!
Recent discoveries in astrophysic have proven scientifically that the universe had a clear beginning. An idea is the Big bang. This makes the First Cause proof especially compelling to atheists and easy to demonstrate. Just ask: "Who set off the Big Bang?" Many astrophysicists who are on the cutting edge of recent iscoveries are answering, "God!"
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bobbybobman Newbiegood job
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MoonlightNinja NewbieAgree :D
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nikorb NewbieThere are a couple typos beause I typed the whole thing with my kindle keyboard.
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bobbybobman Newbiegood job
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Honestly, this isn't proof until the time machine is created to test it for sure. In which, we will no longer be here when that happens.
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Really? You couldn't have just let it go? If they don't wanna believe in God, then they don't have to. Don't try to "prove" them wrong by showing "proof" that God exists. Just let it go. Not everyone is gonna believe in God, and you can't force them to by showing your "proof".
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nikorb NewbieIm not trying to force anyone.
Hunteriscool asked for a proof.
So I gave one.
If moyashi or anyone refuses to change that is fine.
But, Barberbob2 put up an explanation of atheism.
I put up one of belief in God.
I did not put a big stink on his, nobody has to even reamine if they dont want to.
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bobbybobman Newbiefiregirl, please go away.
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She can be here if she chooses to. The forums are free to everyone are they not?
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nikorb Newbiewho is firegirl?
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Nah I think I'll stay, thanks. :P
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I AM YOUR MOM BITCH.
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bobbybobman Newbieits sad to see people like you.
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IKR I'm to awesome for you to handle.
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