Riddle me this, Batman.
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Thread Topic: Riddle me this, Batman.
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God created Adam and Eve as perfect people with perfect bodies. It says in Genesis that God said what he had created was good. And anything imperfect is not good to God, so that meant the two were perfect. And as mentioned above, we were blessed with free will. God doesn't want a bunch of robots giving Him empty worship. He wants true adoration from the heart, which is where our free will comes in. But Adam and Eve decided to abuse that privilege when Satan decieved them. He wanted God's power. So he was thrown out of heaven. He came to Eve in the form of a snake and tricked her into sinning. So God punished Satan, and Adam and Eve. Snakes back then had been highly intelligent creatures. They had legs like a lizard, and were most likely able to communicate with a human like a parrot sort of, but more with a mind of its own. God took away the snake's gifts and it says in Genesis He thrust Him to the ground to crawl among the dirt forever.
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But thats not all. The evidence was found scientifically when scientists discovered that snakes have pelvic bones. So today we can see that way back when, some snakes did have legs before God cursed them. After Adam and Eve sinned, they lost an intimate relationship with God, and sin was brought into the world. Thy weren't perfect anymore; they were now considered sinners. If that doesn't cover everything you were wondering about, feel free to bring on as many questions as you like.
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@berrymerry, Your God demands that he be worshiped and that we beg him for forgiveness for the original sin that he damned us with so that we can sit in complacency for all eternity and worship him some more. That doesn't sound like free will or love to me.
The world is Perfect because a book says so, and it's true because the book says it's true. And your all loving god wants "true admiration" through fear of damnation and force. And you're saying we're free to do exactly what he wants. At this point you go on to talk about your story about talking snakes and magical fruit.
And science finding a pelvis on a snake doesn't mean that the bible is true. In fact, if anything it proves the opposite. Your god removed their legs in your story; so your god either did a very sloppy job, or there is an alternative explanation. Which there is. Also, snakes jaws aren't built to mimic speech. They don't have lips, their tongues are forked, and their jaws unhinge. Genetically, we can tell that snakes did used to have legs, which would make them lizards. Which have been around for a very long time.
Also, as for the eternal sin scenario, your god also says;
(Deuteronomy 24:16) - "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin."
(Ezekiel 18:20) - "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the fathers iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the sons iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself." -
yah, about those verses you posted, theyre absolutly true, and "we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23. "For the wages of sin i death but the gift of God is eternal life thru Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23. After sin came in the world, we all became sinners automatically. We've all done something bad before. So we deserve punishment, but God has mercy on us so if we want we can live with Him forever in glory. And god obly demands worship because He is worth it an He deserves it!! He gave us life, so duh yah He deserves it!
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Your god is being a hypocrite. Your book says he claims to not judge you off of your ancestors, but eternal sin states we were all born guilty. And also, how can free will coexist if "we all became sinners automatically."? Something about that is horribly innacurate. Free will cannot exist with divine preordination. So you're eternal sin, goes against free will, innocence of the child, and your own words.
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So a 3 hour old baby has sinned?
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You heard it here first folks! God hates babies. That's right, he hates the little fuckers. If they don't apologize to him for being born, he's going to send them all to hell. God really hates babies.
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Loves all my butt.......
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I can't stop laughing at Bob's last post in this thread.
So much win. lolol -
Kendall NewbieI'm confused... and upset.
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How so?
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@kendall, by the by.
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