Can God love?
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Thread Topic: Can God love?
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LetsParty Newbie^I agree. You DO have this all twisted, Dl. Kierra, don't let him get to you. If you are accused unjustly because of what you believe, remember, when Christ came to this earth, he too was accused unjustly. And Athenas Daughter -- though I agree, does not the Word of God say we are to bridle our tounges and when trying to win an argument, to try to with gentleness?
God sent His son to die on the cross to save our sins. That is not completely immoral, especialy because NO ONE could take Jesus's life WITHOUT HIS CONSENT. And that Jesus DID die on the cross shows that Jesus loved every single one of us enough that while we were still sinners, he died for us. He did this so we could be washed clean of our sins and have the hope of living in heaven with him someday. And can you name a greater way to show your love for somebody than to send your only son, your perfect, sinless, beloved son, to die for people who murdered, committed adultry, stole, lied, and even more? Or a greater act of love than sacrificing yourself for those same people? No, you can't. After all, if there was somebody that you don't know that lived on the other side of the world from you and had committed lots of sins and you heard that they would die unless you sent your only son to die in their place? Or the same thing could happen, only this time you had to be the one to die to save him. Can you think of a greater act of love than that?
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SilverTree, I was legally pronounced dead once. All I saw was a purple dragon. It sat on a tree branch and laughed for hours. It wasn't a very pleasant dragon. I didn't appreciate him laughing very much. By your logic, because I have died and am now talking about my purple dragon, that spiritual purple dragons must really exist.
(Ps. I have really been dead. I was 13 and it was in a lake near my house. I drowned and was pulled out but my heart already stopped. I was dead for 13 minutes. And I really did see a dragon. Named him Mortimer.)
As for the rest of you, you yourselves are synthesizing evidence that isn't even applicable. He never stated that he loved any of you. And even if he had, acknowledging you and actually talking to you, still means he shows more love than your god; who ignores you and doesn't respond. And believer, before you go on and claim that God has talked to you, ask yourself, are you in a position to prove it? The burden of proof lies with the one making the accusation. An accusation is something like stating that God talks to you. And before you try and get slick and ask me to prove that he doesn't talk to you. I am making a dis-accusation. An accusation that you have no proof to yours.
And I personally hope that this gets to all of you and thoroughly pisses you all off. I want all of you to go do your research (in viable resources) and try and put me down. Shame me the same way I am shaming you. With logic and reasoning.
Letsparty, Christ wasn't accused unjustly. He was disturbing the peace and trying to usurp power through grass roots revolution. It's all over the book of Simon. Simon the zealot who personally tried to influence Christ into overthrowing Rome. Go ahead and try to win with Gentleness. To beat me you're going to have to use something else though. You're going to have to abandon deciding between aggression and kindness and you're going to have to fight with logic. Something your bible can't support you on.
God created us, knowing everything we would ever do. Then watched as Eve committed mortal sin, and then punished us for thousands of years for HER MISTAKE. And then sent his son down here, to be a sacrifice, which he disagrees with, to save us from the mortal sin that he punished us with in the first place. Yep, makes total sense. And yes I can think of better ways to show your love for someone. You could actually show up for starters. End all dispute as to whether or not you exist and literally just show up. You know, NOT have to kill an innocent person? And your next analogy is innacurate. He didn't HAVE TO send his son. If he was forced to do anything that would make God not all powerful. He did it by choice.
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Greatest I am NewbieL P
"After all, if there was somebody that you don't know that lived on the other side of the world from you and had committed lots of sins and you heard that they would die unless you sent your only son to die in their place? Or the same thing could happen, only this time you had to be the one to die to save him. Can you think of a greater act of love than that?"
How pathetic.
If you are a loving parent.
If you created a requirement of death, would you show your love by stepping up or would you have your child murdered.
Should parents bury their children or should children bury their parents?
Remember that God is the one who needlessly demanded blood when he had all kinds of options. Like just forgiving.
Regards
DL
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