There is a dragon living in my garage...
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Thread Topic: There is a dragon living in my garage...
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A fire breathing dragon lives in my garage. Suppose I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check it out; see for yourself. I lead you to my garage. You see a ladder, some empty paint cans, an old tricycle, but no dragon.
"Where is the dragon?" You ask.
"Oh she's right here." I reply. Waving Vaguely. "I neglected to mention that she's an invisible dragon."
You propose spreading flour on the floor to capture the dragons foot prints.
"Good idea, but this dragon floats in the air."
Then you'll use an infra-red sensor to detect the invisible fire.
"Good idea, but the invisible fire is also heatless."
You'll spray paint the dragon and make her visible.
"Good idea, except that she's an incomporial dragon, and paint wont stick."
And so on, I counter every physical test you propose with a special explanation of why it wont work. Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incomporial, floating dragon, who spits heatless fire? And no dragon at all?
If there's no way to disprove my contention. No concievable experiment that would count against it, what does it mean to say that my dragon exists? Your inability to invalidate my hypothesis is not the same thing as proving it is true.
Claims that cannot be tested. Assertions immune to disproof are veritically worthless. Any value they may have in inspiring us or insighting a sense of wonder.
What I'm asking you to do comes down to believing in the absense of evidence, on my say so. The only thing you've really learned in my insistance that there is a dragon in my garage is that something funny is going on inside my head.
You'd wonder, if no physical evidence can supply, what convinced me? The possibility that it was a dream or a hallucination would certainly enter your mind. But then why am I taking it so seriously? Maybe I need help? At the very least, maybe I've seriously underestimated human fallibility.
Now another scenario. Suppose it's not just me? Suppose it's several other people of you acquantance who you are pretty sure dont know each other all tell you they have dragons in their garages? But in every case the evidence is maddeningly elusive.
All of us admit we're disturbed by so odd a conviction. So ill supported by the physical evidence. None of us is a lunatic. We would speculate what it would really mean if invisible dragons were living out in garages all over the world with us humans just catching on.
I'd rather it not be true I tell you. But maybe all those ancient European and Asian myths about dragons werent myths after all.
Gratifyingly some dragon sized foot prints in the flour are now reported. But they're never made when a skeptic is looking. Another explanation presents itself. On closer examination it seems the foot prints could have been faked.
Another dragon enthusiest shows up with a burnt finger and atributes it to a rare physical manifistation of the dragons feiry breath. But again, other possibilities exist. We understand that there are other ways to burn fingers, besides the breath of invisible dragons.
This 'evidence', no matter how important the dragon advocates consider it, is far from compelling.
Once again, the only approach is to tentatively to reject the dragon hypothesis, to be open to future data, and to wonder what the cause might be that so many apparently sane and sober people all share the same strange delusion. -
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I dont think anyone will read it. :/
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I guess the reason no one is reading this is because they dont like their religion being questioned. When we present them with the same scenario they've been giving us for thousands of years, they are forced to see how ignorant the idea really is.
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I just did. Was it just me, or is the 'dragon' sorta like God? No one can see him, feel him, touch him, smell him, taste him, but people claim that he does exist :/
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People can try to disprove what I believe in, they can try to prove it, doesn't matter, I'll keep believing until I die, and we'll see what happens then.
Also an interesting fact to note: In the Bible, the description of the world's beginning is in the same order as evolution: first landscape and water, then simple lifeforms and water creatures, then land and air creatures. Man aka humans were created last, just as evolution pretty much says.
Although in the Bible it says it all happened in 7 days, you never know, 7 days could mean 7 billion years.
And on dinosaurs? First off the idea that 7 days is longer than it seems. The dinosaurs appeared long before people. That means they could have gone extinct before people appeared. The description of animals never says a word against the existence of such things. -
Wow. I read it all. And I think the person's insane. I can say I have an invisible tattoo. What's the use of something that you can't sense? It may as well be not there.
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Nu, the reason I wasn't posting wasn't because I don't like my religion being questioned. People aren't wrong for questioning christianity, or any other religion - questioning something that you can't see, hear, or feel has a name. it's called sanity.
That's not all I have to say, but my mom'
s screaming at me to get off the computer, so bye for now. >. -
You can't see, hear, or feel God himself, but you can definitely tell where he's been...
Same with a ninja, I mean you wouldn't know they were there until they did something, that doesn't mean there's no ninja. -
i skipped most it
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What Appayipyip said.
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CAN you tell where he's been? If you can, I'd say he's DEFINATLY not here.
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