just for you
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Thread Topic: just for you
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macoooo NewbieI understand very well
What do you want to say
But
Do you think that God created human on earth
To live in prosperity and happiness
You are mistaken
Everyone on earth
A test of a different kind
That which does not learn to understand,
And boggle your mind
Example
- A rich man but can not have children no matter how hard
- A poor man has children and can barely spending them
- A strong man and can use his power to do good but does not do it
- Weak man but help people to the best of his ability
- Infidel and polytheist man but he has all the blessings
- A Muslim man has diseases in health
Here everyone trials and test its own
Disease = test
Health = test
Disbelief = test
Money = test
And so on
You will succeed and reach to the right path
Or
Like you would say
do not believe it will be worthwhile to hear that if you become muslim all these will go away, you will be protected, etc. We know at practical level that it ain't so.
Therefore
In the Holy Qur'an
4. Verily, We have created man in toil.
5. Thinks he that none can overcome him?
6. He says (boastfully): "I have wasted wealth in abundance!"
7. Thinks he that none sees him?
8. Have We not made for him a pair of eyes?
9. And a tongue and a pair of lips?
10. And shown him the two ways (good and evil)?
This is wrong thinking
Which you portray Satan
The mind that is far from the
the oneness of God and the prophets and messengers
And if you want to know part of the practical side of Islam to my words
See here
The story of how he became a Muslim youtube
Why an American doctor convert to Islam -Islam youtube
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- Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "Abraham did his circumcision with an adze at the age of eighty." Sahih Bukhari
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- Apart from those who require the procedure for medical reasons of course.
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- Shaykh Ahmed Deedat - Quran and the Computer youtube
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That... literally didn't make any sense.
I'm not sure if it was the way you worded it or if it really is as flawed as it sounds, but I would appreciate it if you revised that. -
Barber bob can't you see? God made a world with flaws...it's an experiment if you will? You know why he did that right? Not just to test and to see what would happen but to prove that love and good is in everything--For example Marther Luther king jr. he and his people (Black/Africans) grew up and were brought to a society where blacks were discriminated against and treated unequally and so out of that "Evil" and cruelty was born a hero, the inspiration of the evil and corruption that god had left on this world was to not ruin us but help us in ways unthinkable.
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So an all powerful, all knowing, all loving God couldn't prove that there is goodness everywhere without the violent and brutal deaths of countless thousands of people over the course of hundreds of years?
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Please do not take it that way. That's not exactly what I meant. Okay so you know that we have both satan and himself, as well as free will so no he did not exactly do those terrible things because with freedom comes responsibility he gave us choice. You could choice to follow your sins or be with god. So do not blame all terribleness on God. He does not step his foot into others business unless you tell him you need him you have faith and you believe.
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>We have both satan and himself, the lord.
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So those countless millions of dedicated believers who were slaughtered all throughout history just didn't believe hard enough? Your God would rather let innocent people die horrible painful deaths, than intervene with free will?
Also, an all knowing God would require that he knows the future. He knows how events transpire. So this negates free will and the ability to be judged. If a being designed you, knew what would happen to you, knew how you would react to those influences, and KNEW what you would do with your life, how would he be in any position to judge you? It's like punishing a gun because it was designed to kill. Or rewarding a band aid because it helped heal you.
Another conundrum with your "all knowing" God, is how can free will coexist with divine preordination? Either your God isn't as all knowing and all powerful as you people claim, or free will doesn't exist.
The more logical conclusion would simply be to remove the unnecessary logical fallacy that fuels these idiotically flawed claims. There is no God. Plain and simple. He is a generally well received imaginary friend. And with anything else conceived on the whims of man, he is flawed. If you cannot base something in the realms of science and what is observable, then there no reason to place any faith in it at all. You are believing in someone else's 2000 year old imaginary friend. Take the initiative, and learn. -
Actually, I don't believe in god like most people do...God is a type of "imaginary friend" if you will. Yes, god is me, I am god. Satan is me, I am Satan...Atheists, AND theists misinterpret the bible
it isn't real life but it isn't fake either...It's hard to explain...you'd have to be in my kind of state of mind to understand, it's logical but at the same time it isn't,
Now Put aside what I said in the first two paragraphs for a moment, yes god does have an ultimate plan for us but how it happens is created by us whether we humans kill a large mass of people then a true genius is born and steers us back to gods intentions or the other way around, god helps us in ways we don't understand or ever acknowledge. We have free will and god does have a plan. And yes I will learn, from the bible... -
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Wow, you're your own God. Never heard that one before. And if a book has to be interpreted by an individual, doesn't that already prove it's flawed? The infallible word of God is now up for interpretation? I call bull shit.
Second paragraph:
self contradiction... that's because it's flawed... claiming you're special isn't an argument, No, it just isn't logical. It's faulty.
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negating your earlier response to take a different approach. You literally just said that God kills large masses of people to help them. That's either so flawed I shouldn't even have to point it out, or your God is a psychotic asshole. You followed this claim with another self contradiction. And then finished off by admitting that you aren't even going to try. -
I did try first off, and I don't believe in that atheist stuff thank you very much. It says in the bible that you have both himself the lord and sin inside of you so yes, I am somewhat of him as are you. I don't believe in religion because religion was created to control a certain group of people (I forgot which group that exactly was, so if you know please, do fill me in) And of course the bible is flawed it was written by humans not god himself and there's only so much you can translate from the bible. So please, don't bagger me about a mistake someone made hundreds of thousands of years ago. Now, I do believe in a type of god, what powers that god has or influence on us I don't know but I do know there is something more out there.
Scientists, you know, the ones tat continuously attempted but fail at disproving god? Have even stated that energy NEVER dies, now with that being said what do you think happens to that energy? I mean, there must be an explanation for that, right? Also, where's the missing link? why haven't they found it yet? hmm? I have no problem believing that monkeys, apes or whatever are our cousins but there is just no way you are convincing me we have EVOLVED from that? And if you are sooooo sure that we did, tell me, why haven't the monkeys in the zoo not evolved into humans, and if opposable thumbs are the reason for all developments in history and for the future then why are monkeys these superior beings?
Now lets re-cap this...
The bible isn't perfect
Religion was created to keep all of those who believe [forced in some cases] to be controlled and not running around like a but of crazy ass animals (this originated from somewhere or something that, at the moment, has slipped my mind)
I don't believe in atheist ways and suspicious of a lot of scientific claims...
And you black and white nearly everything I say. Bit of an asswhole [please enter a clever re-mark about god and him being more of a psychotic asswhole] -
MY SYD!
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I forgot to mention earlier about that comment you made "You literally just said that God kills large masses of people to help them. That's either so flawed I shouldn't even have to point it out, or your God is a psychotic a--hole." Actually, sir, I said it was humans that killed thousands, it was humans that steered off of gods intentions for us. So That statement is wrong good sir. Actually what I said what that God created for example Mather Luther king Jr. to re-direct the humans as to what god had planned for us.
I'd also would like to add to that Bible thing. You see I was watching a documentary called unsolved mysteries where [I forgot who cause I'm just like that so deal with it, look it up for gods sake] had discovered that the bible was a code, where these people from many years ago where sent a message, included in these messages where events that were to happen in the future and did and that the bible was actually a guide as to how to prevent these tings from happening like the twin towers for example...Like I said I think you would take great interest into what they as to say about the bible... -
Fattyhorsey65 NewbieChristianity is stupid
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Fattyhorsey65, do you know the first thing about Christianity?
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GET OUT FOOLISH CHILD! YOU ARE NOT WELCOMED IN THIS LIFE!
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