What happened to Atlantis?
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Thread Topic: What happened to Atlantis?
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And it goes back, again, to the Greek Mythologies. Atlantis was a good place and it's people were wealthy because of the natural resources found there. The first king was Atlas, son of Poseidon.
The inhabitants were noble too but slowly they became immoral because of greed for wealth and money. Seeing there immorality, Zeus and other gods thought of punishing them and Atlantis was drowned.
Later this story was told by Plato. I guess, this story isn't true, maybe because Plato might have told it to show his philosophies as true or maybe it has happened.
What do you guys think, according to myths and science? -
Greed for wealth and power*
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Plato made it up, but assuming he didn't, the entire story comes down to he said, she said, which is so bad he may as well have made it up.
I mean, Plato heard about Atlantis from ? who heard it from Critias, who heard it from Critias Sr, who heard it from Solon who heard it from an anonymous priest who heard it from a nine thousand year old oral tradition of retelling the story, and yet no one else had ever heard of Atlantis before. -
Even Percy Jackson says Atlantis is a myth.
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Ihlaoy: But why would it's story still exists. I mean why even after 3000 years the story exists. (I guess Plato told this story around 300 or 450 BC, didn't he?)
Aadee: XP. Percy Jackson himself is a myth, Perseus. -
Because we found a copy of Plato talking about Atlantis in a fictional setting, just like we've found dozens of other writings by Plato. Just because they're old doesn't mean we're entirely ignorant of the stories told in ancient Greece. Hell, we have an entire scientific area dedicated to uncovering and preserving the cultures of the past.
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According to some scientific declarations, the lost city of Atlantis existed. It's not hard to believe, but I am eager to know the truth.
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A lot of scientists believe Atlantis did infact exist as some evidence has been found showing their existence, for example, a very rare metal alloy was found somewhere in the ocean, on a statue of what seems to be either Zeus or Poisedon, the statue wasn't full so they really couldn't decide which but the metal alloy is said to be from Atlantis
I personally believe Atlantis did actually exist, situated on some remote island, however the island was sinking by the year and the people had to therefore think of alternative habitats, eventually getting more and more used to living in the oceans
Eventually they evolved to life in the ocean, living as mer people, but naturally they were frowned upon and so they kept to themselves
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Plato was just another sci-fi writer.
He says Atlantis was bigger than Libya and Asia combined, beyond the Pillars of Hercules. This clearly points to the Atlantic Ocean. A landmass bigger than Libya and Asia cannot simply drown -
I suppose you're also still searching for Willy Wonka's chocolate factory, eh, Kish?
Atlantis was a fictional story designed to teach a certain lesson, said lesson being that any ruler, even one with divine blood, could become corrupt and cause destruction. It was also made to talk about how pure and moral Athens was and how they defeated the evil empire despite being so much smaller and weaker. It was basically ancient Star Wars.
It's clear that Plato made atlantis up as a plot device, because, and this may shock you, he is literally the only person in history to mention Atlantis. Not a single person besides Plato had written or did write about Atlantis until 1881, when Ignatius Donnelly got it into his head that it was impossible for the Greeks (as filthy heathens) to be so technologically advanced and so decided that ALL it's technology must have come from a more advanced civilization. And since aliens weren't in style, he claimed it was Atlantis.
Since then, only psychics and mediums are tried to claim that Atlantis exists, because it's easier to pretend you can read minds than actually get a job. -
Aadee, "This clearly points to the Atlantic Ocean. A landmassbigger than Libya and Asiacannot simply drown"...They were talking about the Americas...If that's accurate, the only thing that could be would be the Americas. It never sank, people just never came back until the late middle ages...
If not, I honestly still think it existed, just much earlier than what people thought, and I also know why it "sank";
The mid Atlantic ridge. During the last ice age the sea level was actually low enough to let a landmass form in the very center of the north Atlantic (I have tested this and it works out perfectly) People lived there until the ice caps started thawing more, and at that point the island got smaller and split off into many smaller islands due to elevation inequality, and eventually there was nothing left because the whole thing was covered in water. We haven't found anything mainly because we haven't explored the central Atlantic enough to find anything. -
Actually, if you've actually read the story that Plato wrote, he explicitly describes where Atlantis is. There's really no ambiguity to it at all.
Here's the excerpt itself, "For the ocean there was at that time navigable; for in front of the mouth which you Greeks call, as you say, 'the pillars of Heracles,' (i.e., Hercules) there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together." In other words, it lies in the Atlantic Ocean beyond "the pillars of Hercules" (i.e., the Strait of Gibraltar, at the mouth of the Mediterranean).
And if rising sea levels were the cause of Atlantis sinking, why were these sea levels not mentioned anywhere else in the Greek empire? Why aren't we finding tales of coastal villages and other islands flooding? And what caused the ice caps to melt? Studies show that global warming is a relatively new phenomenon.
Also, yes, we have explored the central Atlantic, at least well enough that we would find a 2000 year old city. It's not like it fell into the Marina Trench, it should be fairly close to the surface if it was caused by rising sea levels. -
Well, using that description it's probably the Americas, (unless of course Asia refers to Turkey since that was what it was known as in ancient timesin which case it could be the landmass I'm talking about)
The reason there aren't stories of that there is because there may have not been enough people there at the time (remember I'm talking very long ago) and it's not near the surface most likely, the ice caps sucked in a lot of water to get as huge as they did, so when most of that water went back to the ocean, it put the city really far down. Overall global warming as been occurring since the last full-on ice age started thawing out, it's just that rapid global warming has only happened recently. -
I thought Atlantis was a luxury tropical resort. ._.
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Are you implying that America is sunken city of Atlantis? Also, the Strait of Gibraltar is in AFRICA, on the other side of the Atlantic from America.
No no, you don't understand, I'm not asking why Plato was the only person to ever write about Atlantis for over 2000 years, I'm asking why no one wrote about the rising sea levels that were large enough to sink an entire island and therefore several of the coastal cities that Rome relied on to survive and trade. And even then, do you realise how much water would be needed to sink an island so far down that we can't find it? We have devices and satallites that can scan literally kilometers down onto the ocean floor. You can't seriously be implying that sea levels rose by kilometers without the people of Rome and Athens noticing?
Oh, and sea levels have actually been receding for the last thousand years. That's why you can find ancient signs on mountains in places like Japan and China which discourage people from building their homes lower down and getting flooded.
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