All by myself...
Thread Topic: All by myself...
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the entire Content Cop was a work of art, as per usual
and yeah, he pointed out sooo many flaws of rice's, I don't know how anyone can take ricegum seriously anymore lmao
the roast was very well written, one of my favourite things -
plus it had boyinaband
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the two work really well together, it seems
I like edm
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Neffex is everywhere jeez
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Poor andy
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I'm gay for myself
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Wait no that's gross
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im craving something sweet
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Son: *comes home* dad I just had sex!
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After watching season 9 of "The Office" and browsing the internet, I've seen some very solid pieces of evidence about Toby from HR being the real Strangler. However, I have yet to see a post that truly explains WHY he's killing people. Thus, I present to you, a complete chronological breakdown of Toby's transition from frustrated HR rep to homicidal stalker. Please feel free to point out things I've missed and/or debunk me.
Enjoy!
Abstract/ tl;dr version: In the shows opening seasons, Toby is cast as the sad-sack office punching bag. His only real role was to be a target for Michael, and his various failures in the marriage, parenting, and general social arenas are well-documented. After losing Pam to Jim in Seasons 3 and 4, Toby abandons hope for happiness in Scranton and attempts to start over in Costa Rica. After failing to find happiness even there, he takes his pent-up frustration and disappointment with life and releases it by strangling people over the course of The Offices later seasons.
Evidence:
Frustrations with life:
There are far too many examples to list here, but if youre reading this, you know how well things have gone for Toby. His wife left him, he struggles to connect with his daughter, his boss treats him like crap, and he works at a dead-end job in a dying rust-belt city. Every attempt at humor, or even general conversation, is hijacked and destroyed by Michael. Toby clearly has a lot to say, but is never able to say it. This pent-up anger and repression comes to a head with his...
Frustrations with Pam: In season three, upon learning Pam is single, Toby attempts to win her over, but fails. In Night Out of season four, Toby places a hand on her leg and squeezes. Hard. Like a strangling motion. Immediately after realizing the feeling is not mutual, he announces his plans to move. In season six, Andy, as a gift to Pam and Jim, frames the newspaper from the day CeCe was born. The headline? Scranton Strangler Strikes Again. The joke is meant to be that the headline is morbid and an unfitting commemoration to a baby being born, but this is the first clue. Already, weve seen the connection between lust for Pam and Toby gripping things tightly. Maybe the idea of the woman he loves having another mans child pushed Toby over the edge?
Costa Rica:
What if Pams delivery wasnt the moment that forced Toby to finally go over the edge? What if he already went over, and the childbirth was just an expression of his pre-existing derangement? After striking out with Pam, Toby has failed at every aspect of life in Scranton and decides he needs a change of scenery. Thus, he moves to Costa Rica. Upon arriving, he only lasts a few days before breaking his neck. This is the moment when Toby Flenderson snaps and becomes the Strangler. At this point, he is out of options. Every pursuit of happiness has eluded him and he no longer has a reason to care. Even in a different country, Toby is plauged by misfortune and misery. Resigned to the fact that he will no longer find satisfaction, Toby returns to the town where it all started to begin exacting his revenge with the hope of finding some sort of cathartic release.
Tobys Increasing Guilt:
After getting back from Costa Rica, Toby is selected to the jury in the case of the Strangler, which leaves him ecstatic. He claims that hes just happy that people care what he think. In reality, he feels validated. This is the first time Toby has ever seemed truly happy, and the cause is related to the strangler. His plan worked! After all the years of being ignored and deemed irrelevant, Tobys actions as the strangler have made people care about him. His happiness is furthered by the fact that he does not even have to pay for his crimes. After the trial, however, Toby begins a slow process of self-doubt and guilt. This is first evidenced by his Flenderman Files, the series of detective novels that Toby has been working on since season six. Originally mentioned only in passing, Tobys novels become the main focus of his character after the trial. In Turf War, he is recruited by Jim and Dwight to imitate a non-existent salesman, and Toby acts like a straight-talking private eye. Most of the Files focus on murder and death, representing Tobys subconscious (and conscious) fixation and guilt regarding the Stranglers conviction. In The List, when Robert California takes the group out to lunch, a discussion about Elmo breaks out. Jim mentions how CeCe loves the tickling, and as the group talks about tickling, Toby nervously stands up and says, I should not be here and leaves. Tickling and strangling involve very similar motions (the unwanted placement of hands on a body) and Tobys subconscious made the connection and made him uncomfortable. All of this culminates in season nine, when Oscar admits that the numbers he handed in to Toby were false and he simply did it because he wanted to frame Kevin. Toby suddenly becomes worried and admits to Oscar that when he was on the Scranton Strangler jury he was pressured to convict him despite believing he may have been innocent. Toby is not guilty because he thinks the Strangler may be innocent, but because he knows the Strangler is taking the fall for him. Eaten away by guilt, he visits the Strangler in jail, but the cameras are not allowed to follow. This is highly suspicious, as we have seen the cameras are capable of getting anywhere (hospitals, delivery rooms, boats, restaurants) and the unseen crew members have mastered the art of filming even when their presence is unwanted. The purpose for the sudden inability to film is the nature of the meeting. Toby confesses to the murders to try to relieve his guilt, and is strangled by the innocent man who is taking the blame.
Double Entendres/Thinly-Veiled Threats:
-Toby calls asbestos the silent killer, to which Michael responds, YOURE the silent killer. Toby glances at the camera and says youll see...
Taken on its own, this is just Toby being shut down by Michael, but given that this exchange happens after Tobys return from Costa Rica, it takes on a much more sinister meaning.
-When Jim is talking to Toby about couples counseling, Clark interrupts, but is forced out by Toby. Toby is unusually angry, and after Clark leaves, he mutters Im gonna kill him with no trace of irony or sarcasm. Jim doesnt even give the camera one of his trademark smirks. The entire comment is just left there, waiting.
Other miscellaneous references:
-There are constant references to Tobys fitness. Hes a dedicated runner and brags about finishing a marathon (to Pam, no less...) While this is not suspicious in itself, it proves that he is physically capable of strangling people.
-On the day when the falsely-accused strangler is being pursued by the cops, the staff is sitting at Tobys desk when his phone rings. Not only did someone try to reach him, but since Erin wasnt at reception forwarding calls, the person calling Toby must have known his extension directly. As a man with few friends who rarely if ever receives direct calls, this is highly suspicious and points to either an accomplice or a confidant to whom Toby confessed.
-On the day the Strangler is caught, Toby is not among the staff watching the events. It is probable that he was preoccupied with evading capture and framing the other man.
-The name of the Scranton Strangler in prison is revealed to be George Howard Scub. As Darryl puts it, a devils name. This seems like an odd and unusually harsh statement. Its a rather common and plain enough name. However, Michael constantly referred to Toby as an evil figure, even calling him Satan and the antichrist, aka the devil.
That being said, if this theory is true, that would mean that Greg Daniels and his crew were developing this subplot for at least a few seasons. While the show -
I was always considered the Toby
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